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Greece proceeds with purchase of 20 Lockheed F-35 fighter jets
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/greece-submit-request-purchase-20-lockheed-f-35-fighter-jets-soon-sources-2022-06-30/?utm_source=reddit.com2.5k
u/only_buy_no_sell
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ALL HAIL LOCKMART
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u/Riven_Dante Jul 01 '22
Is there going to be a Lockmart near me?
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u/platitood Jul 01 '22
They are mostly in the United States and allied countries, but they deliver around the world.
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u/rtb001 Jul 01 '22
Amazon merely teases the possibility of drone delivery, yet LockMart MIC Limited had already perfected AND deployed such technology for more than a decade already.
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u/hdadeathly Jul 01 '22 •
A very pleasant evening Fellow NCD member
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u/stup1db4nana Jul 01 '22 •
Greetings fellow plane connoisseurs
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u/OrangeJr36 Jul 01 '22
3000 Grey Fighters of NATO
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u/phoenixmusicman Jul 01 '22
3000 Green Abrams of NATO
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u/ForARolex2 Jul 01 '22
3000 femboy VDV recruits of russia
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u/rpkarma Jul 01 '22
Theres 3000 left after Hostomel?
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u/stormy83 Jul 01 '22 •
VARK VARK VARK VARK
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u/phoenixmusicman Jul 01 '22
F-111 MY BELOVED 💞
While we're all here I'd like to give a shout out to Pierre Sprey. Rot in hell you reformer piece of shit 💗
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u/Beneficial_Step9088 Jul 01 '22
The supply chain thanks them.
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u/cajunsoul Jul 01 '22
Wait until they find out the delivery date.
“Why, yes, we did cash your check. Did Bob not mention they are on back-order?”
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u/terencebogards Jul 01 '22
Imagine paying like $48B a month like a car payment and you don't have the car for month after month XD
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u/Ok-Mammoth1143 Jul 01 '22
The butthole on that thing
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u/ltkettch16 Jul 01 '22 •
The correct term is planus
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u/deja_entend_u Jul 01 '22
Plussy?
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u/Suntreestar420 Jul 01 '22 •
Oh step bro…my jet fuel is leaking out of my plussy, better watch out or it might melt right thru your steel beam teehee I’m about to break the sound barrier don’t stop -BWWOOOOOOSHHHHHH-
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u/JoshuaTheFox Jul 01 '22
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u/SowingSalt Jul 01 '22
Saab in shambles
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u/TheRealLouisWu Jul 01 '22
I believe in Gripen inferiority
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u/WorkingNo6161 Jul 01 '22
Another NCD enjoyer?
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u/Yasai101 Jul 01 '22
Wait is the grippen no good? Because im about half way in my swedish air and I need to know if its worth the investment.
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u/random_nohbdy Jul 01 '22
It’s a decent aircraft, and a good choice for countries that don’t have the security infrastructure to be trusted with the F-35, but Saab’s marketing team has become infamous for spreading some really sketchy ideas about its affordability, capabilities, and desirability in relation to the F-35
Tbh Gripen’s biggest selling point is that the F-35 is so popular, its orders are backlogged into the 2030s
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u/DevestatingAttack Jul 01 '22
The Gripen is the RC Cola of 4th and a half generation fighters. (The song "Little Dark Age" by MGMT begins playing with a montage of F-35 advertising reels)
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u/Husk1es Jul 01 '22
Swedish prime minister just told Czech Republic they can keep their leased Gripens for free after they mentioned they were looking at F-35s as the lease ends
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u/DefaultProphet Jul 01 '22
It's weird how everyone on the internet says F35s are trash but basically every country in the world that's offered it is buying them. Makes you think
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u/Deepandabear Jul 01 '22
Turns out the ignorant masses drink the kool aid served by divisive journos and washed up retired Air Force vets, who only look at airframe performance to make critique, while ignoring the F35’s stealth and information warfare advantages.
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u/boilingfarts Jul 01 '22
who only look at airframe performance to make critique
But the aircraft is very maneuverable, so even that argument is just not true lol
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u/markph0204 Jul 01 '22
No it’s because the numbers are getting too big. F15, F16 (lawn dart) and now F35? How do we count that high😆
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u/CatDadSnowBunny Jul 01 '22
F50 is next
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u/Vorpal_Bunny19 Jul 01 '22
One of our suburbs is a town called Greece. I had just been replying to something in my local sub and thought I was still in there (by choice), until I got to this next post in my feed and I suddenly got concerned and confused about the town police budget.
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u/blue_bomber508 Jul 01 '22
Hello fellow rochestarian
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u/PokeCaptain Jul 01 '22
Half of my family is Greek and Im going to school in Roc. Shit gets mighty confusing for me.
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u/dimitrismazi Jul 01 '22
If you are from the US it wouldn't be hard to imagine police rocking with an F 35
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u/Kuges Jul 01 '22
Back in another long ago forum, It was fun explaining that no, the Georgia that Russia had just invaded wasn't the state just north of Florida.
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u/Jeffery_G Jul 01 '22
During the 1980s I was in NATO AMFL Response force based in Vicenza, Italy. We (Americans) would occasionally load up and fly to the Thrace region of Turkey for big NATO exercises.
We would have to fly over Greek airspace, and our pilots were insistent that all radios, portable CD players, etc. were silenced until out of range of Greece. We common soldiers were told this was to prevent the Greek Air Force from overreacting and shooting us out of the sky; seemed appropriate. Greece has always maintained a big military stick for the reasons others have outlined here.
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u/Grunchlk Jul 01 '22
And Turkey is only getting F-16s. LOL. Ya done fucked up Er-Er-dogan.
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u/KeyWestTime Jul 01 '22
I still have a hard time understanding why Erdogan sabotaged their F35 deal by buying Russian AA which is more than likely inferior to anything he could have otherwise acquired through their NATO relationships.
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u/ivytea Jul 01 '22
Turkish was denied Patriots because it forced tech transfer from the US which promptly declined
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u/KeyWestTime Jul 01 '22
The Patriots were later offered if Turkey agreed to not operate the S400s, Turkey declined.
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u/ivytea Jul 01 '22
IIRC Biden offered this again replacing Turkish S400 1:1 and donating them to Ukraine?
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u/KeyWestTime Jul 01 '22
I missed that. It's such a weird decision. Like he's being blackmailed or something.
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u/XxSCRAPOxX Jul 01 '22
It’s corruption. Lots of influence from Russia, despite their opposition to eachother.
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u/01209 Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22
It's aaaaaalllll about money. Same as their opposition to Finland and Norway joining NATO. They don't oppose it, they just want something in return for agreeing.
Edit: Sweden, not Norway.
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u/Tancoll Jul 01 '22
Norway is a NATO member since 1949.
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u/Out_numbered_3to1 Jul 01 '22
Plus being occupied by Germany during WW2 while trying to stay neutral. They were like we are not doing that again.
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u/Ok-Tax1938 Jul 01 '22
The whole reason for that was the fact that almost all NATO members pulled out their SAMs after Turkey shot down that Russian plane.
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u/Armchairbroke Jul 01 '22
Sort of... It wasn’t a “full” transfer of technology, Raytheon and the Department of Defense were close to putting a package that met Turkish technology transfer demands regarding the patriot system. US saw the deployments in Turkey were hard to sustain (and expensive to maintain) over a long period of time. The two countries were negotiating, but what broke down the negotiations was Turkeys bringing Chinese offers to the table to bargain it down, the dwindling confidence in NATO, and growing mistrust of the United States both for its relations with the Syrian Kurds and its suspected role in the coup in Turkey.
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u/Desu_Vult_The_Kawaii Jul 01 '22
It's impressive how reductive reddit can be to any country except North America and west Europe, the only countries with nuances apparently.
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u/Deepandabear Jul 01 '22
Yep. Eg every Reddit comment about Australian military news articles comes in two forms: 1. Australia has an army?!11? or 2. But they lost a war to Emus!!111!
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u/esmifra Jul 01 '22
Nuances? On Reddit? Reddit does that for everything. M'urica posts, French surrendering, English bad teeth, Germans not having a funny bone.
You name it.
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u/ZDTreefur Jul 01 '22
Never come to Reddit for intelligence. Only come to laugh at things.
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u/NFTY_GIFTY
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Lockheed had stripped them down to a special edition called the Flying (F) Spanikopita. It's a swept wing glider that spits chopped spinach and olive oil at ground targets. It ain't much, but they're accepting drachmas for payment.
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u/sm12511 Jul 01 '22
As long as the targeting system for the feta cluster bombs is intact, it's a good deal.
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u/MTAST Jul 01 '22
Why sell a man your best
goatfighter when you can wrap up spinach and feta in a phyllo and call it agoatfighter instead?
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u/Yolo_420_69 Jul 01 '22
Nothing like a good old war to help alleviate the American recession
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u/fuckinyobitch Jul 01 '22
People in here acting like it's 2014. The debt to the EU is already paid and the country is making steady progress. Tourism alone is around 16bn. You gotta invest in the jets if your NATO ally is threatening you with war every few days. The Ukraine Situation and Cyprus just show how nobody will go to war for you lol
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u/Rayl24 Jul 01 '22
Repayment is scheduled till 2060, they won't need a reduction in interest rate for meeting targets if they are all paid up.
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u/Snaggletooth_27 Jul 01 '22
Greece proceeds to procure a more effective air force than all of Russia's forces combined.
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u/Ainsley-Sorsby
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itt: stereotypes and lame "jokes" straight from 2010 about Greece being poor.
That should save you the time of reading the thread. Not worth it
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u/abki12c Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22
These jokes are so unfunny. Self proclaimed anti racists brainwashed by western media used to make fun of Greek people because of how shitty their politicians are. They called us poor, lazy etc.
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u/Sarsonic Jul 01 '22
Is it possible for a (US) private citizen (with beaucoup mullah) to purchase a F35?
Such an amazing machine! I want one.
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u/Minute_Helicopter_97 Jul 01 '22
Yes, but fighter jets only become legal after some time, so give it 70 years and you can probably be able to purchase one, if they decided it’s stealth isn’t very important anymore
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u/Resethel Jul 01 '22
Technically yes, but it will probably be demilitarized as this is controlled by the government.
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u/Salty_Efficiency_475 Jul 01 '22
Everyone asking HoW CaN TheY AfFoRd?! The financial crisis in Greece was like 8 years ago get with the times. Greece is under constant threat from turkey invading their airspace. Greece has some of the best military pilots who are constantly in conflict with Turkish air forces this is a nice addition to greece military forces.
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u/anevilpotatoe Jul 01 '22
Lol. Just after I've commented on the before, they put a whole new level of fear when going up against those baddies. They are Manuverable as fuck. Takes a really well trained pilot also. Airshows don't even give them justice.
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u/jibsand Jul 01 '22
It really has more to do with their onboard AWACS
Revolutionary for a fighter to command that kind of intel
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u/AWESOMESAUSE10101 Jul 01 '22
It's not their great kinematic performance in bfm that makes them scary, it's their networking, stealth, and advanced missiles that make them horrifying to fly against in any situation.
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u/CouldntThinkOfJuan Jul 01 '22 •
How on earth can they afford this?