r/worldnews Jul 01 '22 Silver 3 Wholesome 2

Greece proceeds with purchase of 20 Lockheed F-35 fighter jets

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/greece-submit-request-purchase-20-lockheed-f-35-fighter-jets-soon-sources-2022-06-30/?utm_source=reddit.com
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u/CouldntThinkOfJuan Jul 01 '22 Silver Eureka!

How on earth can they afford this?

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u/SkiingAway Jul 01 '22

For a non-joke answer: They spend the highest % of GDP on their military in all of NATO, slightly higher than the US.

So they have a fairly respectable military budget and one of the largest militaries in Europe. They didn't really slash their budgets to the same degree as much of Europe did post-Cold War, so they're not having to rebuild in the same way either. (Because their main concern - Turkey, also never went away).

Their (2021) budget is a bit larger than Belgium's in raw $. Citation - direct from NATO - table 1

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u/fulcrum_security Jul 01 '22

They kicked ass in WW2. Or maybe the Italians were just garbage.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 08 '22

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u/potatman Jul 01 '22

ELI5 but how can two NATO nations have constant military tensions towards each other? Isn't "cool your shit and play nice" required for that sort of treaty to work? What happens if one attacks the other, does the rest of NATO just say "not our problem" since they are supposed to be allied with both?

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u/pblokhout Jul 01 '22

The first to attack gets fucked

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u/We_Make_Soap Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22

This was actually written right into article VI: “The first to attack gets fucked”

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u/SamplingCheese Jul 01 '22

Yup. Right under the legal definition of Sodomy.

It’s a fact

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u/StillTheNugget Jul 01 '22

What? Proper fucked?

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u/pv505 Jul 01 '22

Yeah Tommy, proper fucked

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u/zebenix Jul 01 '22

Fight ya for a caravan

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u/randypriest Jul 01 '22

Whydiwannacaravanwitnowills

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u/Dil_Moran Jul 01 '22

Dya like dags?

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u/Speedingscript Jul 01 '22

dags

I like caravans more.

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u/Ozmandius237 Jul 01 '22

Itsnotfurme, Itsfurmemah

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u/Mojake Jul 01 '22

Yeah, before zee Germans get there.

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u/RNLImThalassophobic Jul 01 '22

Turkey invades Greece, Greece invokes NATO defensive pact, NATO declares war on Turkey, Turkey has to invade itself. It's the law.*

(*possibly oversimplified)

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u/InnocentTailor Jul 01 '22

Turkish soldiers proceed to punch themselves into submission.

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u/TootBreaker Jul 01 '22

Yeah but, by 'punch' you mean butt punch? Because according to what I'm seeing here that's how the law works...

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u/Lee1138 Jul 01 '22

The more technical explanation is that the agressor is obligated to divide its forces into two, one for attacking the other NATO member (assuming they still want to proceed after article 5 is invoked) and one for attacking itself. Its kinda problematic because the aggressor is expected to divide evenly, but the temptation to skew the force towards offense is always there.

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u/Bhishmapitahma Jul 01 '22

Right out of catch-22

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u/yameteyamete Jul 01 '22

So Turkey starts performing autofellatio?

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u/Aliensinnoh Jul 01 '22

I think it is likely that both having NATO membership nullifies the protections altogether. The alliance likely wouldn’t intervene. Though Greece also benefits from EU collective defense.

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u/Fordmister Jul 01 '22

Effectively yeah, shared NATO membership has kept tensions down, but it doesn't mean the two aren't still highly suspicious of one another. Nobody is going to throw the first punch, but the don't trust each other enough for tensions to completely go away

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u/oldcretan Jul 01 '22

It's not that tensions have been down, it's that they have been held back from boiling over too often. When the war in Cyprus broke out NATO basically told them to cool their jets or else, and eventually they did, but tensions tend to wax and wane when nationalists get a hold of either governemnt. Unfortunately this time around Edrogan has had some staying power so tensions have yet to wane and a military outbreak has almost happened in the past few years.

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u/Canium Jul 01 '22

They've had tensions since the 1400s I wouldn't worry to much about it.

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u/pow3llmorgan Jul 01 '22

By keeping both in the alliance, it is a tacit commandment to play nice with each other.

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u/romboot123 Jul 01 '22

Turkey is very aggressive, read some articles about their past and present and you will understand.

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u/vhax123456 Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22

Tensions between these 2 countries run longer than the existence of the US. If they do attack each other, NATO will probably try to de escalate and if that fails, either NATO will be splitted or the country that serves the least interest get the stick.

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u/Sometimes_gullible Jul 01 '22

No? There has to be an aggressor, and that one is the one to get shafted since NATO is a defensive pact and not a private military.

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u/B33rtaster Jul 01 '22

Who ever attacks first will be the aggressor. Who willthen fail its obligations to the alliance. Allowing everyone else to kick the aggressor out of the alliance.

There's a lot for both sides to lose in economics, military, defence, and politics. Like losing access to EU markets and even fight them.

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u/captobliviated Jul 01 '22

NATO exists to keep Russia ( originally Soviet Union) in check. All other squabbles seem to be left up to the nation's.

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u/Infinite5kor Jul 01 '22

Lord Ismay, NATO's first secretary general, famously said their goal was "to keep the Soviet Union out, the Americans in, and the Germans down"

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u/fk-reddit Jul 01 '22

Money isn’t real but a military deterrence is

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u/yxlmal Jul 01 '22

Glad to see more people see this everyday

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u/__Osiris__ Jul 01 '22

They can’t

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u/Dr_smell Jul 01 '22 Gold hehehehe

They must have just watched Top Gun Maverick and got all excited.

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u/AdvocateSaint Jul 01 '22

After watching that movie I looked up my country's airforce and found out that the Philippines (a country of 110 million people in a politically tense region) has a grand total of... 12 fighter jets.

And they're technically training models.

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u/buddhahat Jul 01 '22

Singapore; a tiny island of 5.5million people has 40 F15s and 60 F16s. Currently evaluating F35 to replace the F16s.

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u/7evenCircles Jul 01 '22

Nobody wants to get Belgium'd

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u/Tuxpc Jul 01 '22

I-maginot that.

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u/RayceARoni Jul 01 '22

Good one lol

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u/LiberaceRingfingaz Jul 01 '22

It was so good I even upvoted your comment.

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u/Bittlegeuss Jul 01 '22

This sounds about right, in Greece we have 11mil people and 154 F16s, 42 Mirage 2000s, 24 Rafale, 35 F-4s, 20 F35s, plus transports/firefighters/helicopter-helicopters etc.

Don't let those land lubbers get to you, they are just aeronoobs 😎😎😎

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u/kaelrvo Jul 01 '22

Just checked Finland's airforce and found out that we have 55 operational hornet fighter jets + trainers, etc.

Not just that we have almost 5 times the jets, but the ratio makes it more interesting since our population is only 5,5 million.

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u/Lonnbeimnech Jul 01 '22

I just checked Ireland’s airforce and found that both of our training kites are fully operational and work proceeds on our top secret dirigible. On its completion in 2041, Ireland will finally be a world power. Able to extend its reach tens of kilometres outside its border.

Joking aside, Ireland has Ryanair which has caused more difficulty for more people than even the USAF could.

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u/Sometimes_gullible Jul 01 '22

Breaking down the enemy one economy ride with not enough leg space at a time!

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u/carymb Jul 01 '22

American, can confirm--but this is why the Department of Defense created Spirit Airlines, to get back in the game!

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u/Barada-Nikto Jul 01 '22

The Irish have created RyanAir to train its soldiers in high-g maneuvers. After enough RyanAir flights and corresponding landings, they're ready for aerobraking and deployments from dropships.

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u/BucketsMcGaughey Jul 01 '22

You also have a deranged neighbour and (until now) no guarantee of backup, so that makes sense to me.

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u/Sometimes_gullible Jul 01 '22

Well, word was always that Sweden would stand by them in case of a Russian invasion, and I sure as hell hope we would honor that.

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u/Snabelpaprika Jul 01 '22

Sweden is the deranged neighbor. We earned that title by wearing swimming short in the sauna and speaking a language that is "fucking gay" according to all the finns.

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u/haerski Jul 01 '22

62 F18s actually and 64 F35s coming in.

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u/UnorignalUser Jul 01 '22

At least your not mexico.

They have like 5 1970's era F5 fighters and they might not even be flight worthy anymore.

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u/corgi-king Jul 01 '22

Guess they will not invade US anytime soon.

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u/Punkpunker Jul 01 '22

The Philippines is in a weird spot where counter insurgency ops are a priority over air defense, if the SCS issue escalates it is very vulnerable to air strikes by the PLAF, but fortunately for you the USN can fill that gap.

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u/Zingzing_Jr Jul 01 '22

Meanwhile, the US with 3× the population in the least politically tense region in the world has 13,902 aircraft (counting fighters, bombers, transport etc)

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u/Handy_Dude Jul 01 '22

I heard the Navy put up booths outside the theater to sell these jets.

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u/AdvocateSaint Jul 01 '22

It's true, I bought two of them

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u/chase_what_matters Jul 01 '22

Do you have like an unboxing vid on YouTube I could peep or

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u/Handy_Dude Jul 01 '22

Guess they're having shipping issues. Should be here in the next decade or so though.

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u/__Osiris__ Jul 01 '22

Weren’t those Tom cats?

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u/Elephant44 Jul 01 '22

F18s IIRC, but F-35s get a shoutout

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u/ezone2kil Jul 01 '22

Will always have a special spot in my heart. Along with the A-10.

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u/TheCatInTheHatThings Jul 01 '22

As a German, same with the Tornado for me. We’re in the process of replacing our Tornados with F-35s and while that’s long overdue, the Tornado is an awesome plane and I’ll miss it.

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u/alby333 Jul 01 '22

Germany kinda replaced the tornadoes with eurofighter typhoons years ago. I worked on both.

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u/amjhwk Jul 01 '22

there is an F35 on the flight deck at the very start of the movie

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u/WingedGeek Jul 01 '22

F/A-18s, and the bogey man of enemy “fifth generation fighters.” Oh, and a random ancient F-14. Because why not.

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u/opman4 Jul 01 '22

Iran still operates F-14's so it's actually not as impossible as you would think.

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u/deliciouspuppy Jul 01 '22

no those were tom hornets

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u/Zincktank Jul 01 '22

I think they were TomCruise missiles.

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u/_g_boi_ Jul 01 '22

No that was Tom cruise

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u/ShkaBank Jul 01 '22

Original Top Gun was Tomcats. New one was F/A-18 Super Hornet.

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u/ffroz Jul 01 '22

they can't afford it, they just add more debt on top of debt..

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u/pathanb Jul 01 '22

Most people know about Greek finances from financial crisis memes, and it's understandable (rEpAy DeBtZ), but its financial recovery had been pretty good. Greece is actually even repaying its bailout debts early:

https://greekreporter.com/2022/04/05/greece-repays-imf-bailout-era-debt-two-years-early/

Greece also has one of the largest military budgets as a % of GDP in NATO. Even during the massive slashes of the financial crisis, it remained comfortably above 2%.

I'm not qualified to say whether it can afford a handful of F-35s. But it's not that outlandish an idea as far as I can tell.

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u/Archmagnance1 Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22

If you can make your payments then you can afford it, if you cant then you run into big issues. It's how the world runs. If greece can't make good on their payments thats when they truly can't afford it.

being able to politically afford something is an entirely different matter.

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u/raptorgalaxy Jul 01 '22

Government debt works on different rules to personal debt. Things would be better if more people knew this.

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u/mog_knight Jul 01 '22

Sovereign debt != Personal debt

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u/Bullyoncube Jul 01 '22

Maxxing out their next credit card.

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u/_stinkys Jul 01 '22

It’s just numbers

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u/falconzord Jul 01 '22

It's only smells

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u/Magmasoar Jul 01 '22

Paying credit with credit, that's the American way

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u/kotopoulas Jul 01 '22 Rocket Like

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u/cr_y Jul 01 '22

They owed 12b Euros to the IMF which is a drop in the bucket compared to the 168b owed to the ESM, 53b to Eurozone governments, 34b to private investors, 13b to European Central Bank, and 15b to Greek government bond holders. It's a good sign that they're ahead of their debt but they still have a long way to go.

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u/only_buy_no_sell Jul 01 '22 Gold Wholesome

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Yes, however only surprise delivery available for those events.

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u/hdadeathly Jul 01 '22 Gold

A very pleasant evening Fellow NCD member

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Greetings fellow plane connoisseurs

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3000 Grey Fighters of NATO

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While we're all here I'd like to give a shout out to Pierre Sprey. Rot in hell you reformer piece of shit 💗

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The supply chain thanks them.

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u/cajunsoul Jul 01 '22

Wait until they find out the delivery date.

“Why, yes, we did cash your check. Did Bob not mention they are on back-order?”

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u/terencebogards Jul 01 '22

Imagine paying like $48B a month like a car payment and you don't have the car for month after month XD

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u/Ok-Mammoth1143 Jul 01 '22

The butthole on that thing

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The correct term is planus

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Plussy?

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Oh step bro…my jet fuel is leaking out of my plussy, better watch out or it might melt right thru your steel beam teehee I’m about to break the sound barrier don’t stop -BWWOOOOOOSHHHHHH-

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On Al Gore’s internet you write such filth

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I see that /r/dragonsfuckingcars has gone up in the world.

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Everyday we stray farther away from God's light

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u/purpleninja828 Jul 01 '22

I didn’t know I needed this in my life

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u/KierkgrdiansofthGlxy Jul 01 '22

Wish news commentators were more like this

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u/SowingSalt Jul 01 '22

Saab in shambles

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u/TheRealLouisWu Jul 01 '22

I believe in Gripen inferiority

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Another NCD enjoyer?

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Another lockmart enjoyer?

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3000 LockMart Enjoyers of NCD

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u/Yasai101 Jul 01 '22

Wait is the grippen no good? Because im about half way in my swedish air and I need to know if its worth the investment.

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u/random_nohbdy Jul 01 '22

It’s a decent aircraft, and a good choice for countries that don’t have the security infrastructure to be trusted with the F-35, but Saab’s marketing team has become infamous for spreading some really sketchy ideas about its affordability, capabilities, and desirability in relation to the F-35

Tbh Gripen’s biggest selling point is that the F-35 is so popular, its orders are backlogged into the 2030s

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u/1sagas1 Jul 01 '22

4th generation performance with a 5th generation price tag

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u/DevestatingAttack Jul 01 '22

The Gripen is the RC Cola of 4th and a half generation fighters. (The song "Little Dark Age" by MGMT begins playing with a montage of F-35 advertising reels)

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u/Husk1es Jul 01 '22

Swedish prime minister just told Czech Republic they can keep their leased Gripens for free after they mentioned they were looking at F-35s as the lease ends

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u/DefaultProphet Jul 01 '22

It's weird how everyone on the internet says F35s are trash but basically every country in the world that's offered it is buying them. Makes you think

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u/Deepandabear Jul 01 '22

Turns out the ignorant masses drink the kool aid served by divisive journos and washed up retired Air Force vets, who only look at airframe performance to make critique, while ignoring the F35’s stealth and information warfare advantages.

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u/boilingfarts Jul 01 '22

who only look at airframe performance to make critique

But the aircraft is very maneuverable, so even that argument is just not true lol

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u/markph0204 Jul 01 '22

No it’s because the numbers are getting too big. F15, F16 (lawn dart) and now F35? How do we count that high😆

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u/CatDadSnowBunny Jul 01 '22

F50 is next

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u/DruTangClan Jul 01 '22

And then the inevitable F-150 superduty

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u/PrismaticHospitaller Jul 01 '22

Greece Lightning

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u/Vorpal_Bunny19 Jul 01 '22

One of our suburbs is a town called Greece. I had just been replying to something in my local sub and thought I was still in there (by choice), until I got to this next post in my feed and I suddenly got concerned and confused about the town police budget.

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u/blue_bomber508 Jul 01 '22

Hello fellow rochestarian

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u/The_Blue_Bomber Jul 01 '22

I like your username, lol.

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u/PokeCaptain Jul 01 '22

Half of my family is Greek and Im going to school in Roc. Shit gets mighty confusing for me.

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u/dimitrismazi Jul 01 '22

If you are from the US it wouldn't be hard to imagine police rocking with an F 35

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u/Thesleek Jul 01 '22

They're gonna fly over those schools real good now. Awesome.

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u/Kuges Jul 01 '22

Back in another long ago forum, It was fun explaining that no, the Georgia that Russia had just invaded wasn't the state just north of Florida.

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u/rtb001 Jul 01 '22

I mean those dastardly Canadians are just over on the other side of the lake...

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u/Jeffery_G Jul 01 '22

During the 1980s I was in NATO AMFL Response force based in Vicenza, Italy. We (Americans) would occasionally load up and fly to the Thrace region of Turkey for big NATO exercises.

We would have to fly over Greek airspace, and our pilots were insistent that all radios, portable CD players, etc. were silenced until out of range of Greece. We common soldiers were told this was to prevent the Greek Air Force from overreacting and shooting us out of the sky; seemed appropriate. Greece has always maintained a big military stick for the reasons others have outlined here.

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u/Grunchlk Jul 01 '22

And Turkey is only getting F-16s. LOL. Ya done fucked up Er-Er-dogan.

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u/KeyWestTime Jul 01 '22

I still have a hard time understanding why Erdogan sabotaged their F35 deal by buying Russian AA which is more than likely inferior to anything he could have otherwise acquired through their NATO relationships.

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u/ivytea Jul 01 '22

Turkish was denied Patriots because it forced tech transfer from the US which promptly declined

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u/KeyWestTime Jul 01 '22

The Patriots were later offered if Turkey agreed to not operate the S400s, Turkey declined.

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u/ivytea Jul 01 '22

IIRC Biden offered this again replacing Turkish S400 1:1 and donating them to Ukraine?

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u/KeyWestTime Jul 01 '22

I missed that. It's such a weird decision. Like he's being blackmailed or something.

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u/XxSCRAPOxX Jul 01 '22

It’s corruption. Lots of influence from Russia, despite their opposition to eachother.

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u/01209 Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22

It's aaaaaalllll about money. Same as their opposition to Finland and Norway joining NATO. They don't oppose it, they just want something in return for agreeing.

Edit: Sweden, not Norway.

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u/Tancoll Jul 01 '22

Norway is a NATO member since 1949.

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u/Out_numbered_3to1 Jul 01 '22

Plus being occupied by Germany during WW2 while trying to stay neutral. They were like we are not doing that again.

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u/01209 Jul 01 '22

Yes! Thanks, I made a correction.

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u/Ok-Tax1938 Jul 01 '22

The whole reason for that was the fact that almost all NATO members pulled out their SAMs after Turkey shot down that Russian plane.

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u/Armchairbroke Jul 01 '22

Sort of... It wasn’t a “full” transfer of technology, Raytheon and the Department of Defense were close to putting a package that met Turkish technology transfer demands regarding the patriot system. US saw the deployments in Turkey were hard to sustain (and expensive to maintain) over a long period of time. The two countries were negotiating, but what broke down the negotiations was Turkeys bringing Chinese offers to the table to bargain it down, the dwindling confidence in NATO, and growing mistrust of the United States both for its relations with the Syrian Kurds and its suspected role in the coup in Turkey.

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u/Desu_Vult_The_Kawaii Jul 01 '22

It's impressive how reductive reddit can be to any country except North America and west Europe, the only countries with nuances apparently.

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u/Deepandabear Jul 01 '22

Yep. Eg every Reddit comment about Australian military news articles comes in two forms: 1. Australia has an army?!11? or 2. But they lost a war to Emus!!111!

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u/esmifra Jul 01 '22

Nuances? On Reddit? Reddit does that for everything. M'urica posts, French surrendering, English bad teeth, Germans not having a funny bone.

You name it.

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u/ZDTreefur Jul 01 '22

Never come to Reddit for intelligence. Only come to laugh at things.

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u/NFTY_GIFTY Jul 01 '22 Silver

Lockheed had stripped them down to a special edition called the Flying (F) Spanikopita. It's a swept wing glider that spits chopped spinach and olive oil at ground targets. It ain't much, but they're accepting drachmas for payment.

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u/sm12511 Jul 01 '22

As long as the targeting system for the feta cluster bombs is intact, it's a good deal.

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u/michaelsigh Jul 01 '22

Just fly low and the terrain will confuse the targeting system

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u/MTAST Jul 01 '22

Why sell a man your best goat fighter when you can wrap up spinach and feta in a phyllo and call it a goat fighter instead?

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u/Yolo_420_69 Jul 01 '22

Nothing like a good old war to help alleviate the American recession

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u/fuckinyobitch Jul 01 '22

People in here acting like it's 2014. The debt to the EU is already paid and the country is making steady progress. Tourism alone is around 16bn. You gotta invest in the jets if your NATO ally is threatening you with war every few days. The Ukraine Situation and Cyprus just show how nobody will go to war for you lol

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u/Rayl24 Jul 01 '22

Repayment is scheduled till 2060, they won't need a reduction in interest rate for meeting targets if they are all paid up.

https://www.esm.europa.eu/press-releases/efsf-approves-sixth-successive-reduction-step-interest-margin-greece

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u/Snaggletooth_27 Jul 01 '22

Greece proceeds to procure a more effective air force than all of Russia's forces combined.

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u/calgy Jul 01 '22

No kidding, they also ordered 30 Dassault Rafale last year.

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u/CarrionAssassin2k9 Jul 01 '22

No doubt this is because of Turkish aggression.

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u/Ainsley-Sorsby Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22 Silver Wholesome

itt: stereotypes and lame "jokes" straight from 2010 about Greece being poor.

That should save you the time of reading the thread. Not worth it

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u/yimanya Jul 01 '22

Don't forget le edgy spanakopita tzatziki jokes

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u/abki12c Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22

These jokes are so unfunny. Self proclaimed anti racists brainwashed by western media used to make fun of Greek people because of how shitty their politicians are. They called us poor, lazy etc.

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u/Sarsonic Jul 01 '22

Is it possible for a (US) private citizen (with beaucoup mullah) to purchase a F35?

Such an amazing machine! I want one.

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u/Minute_Helicopter_97 Jul 01 '22

Yes, but fighter jets only become legal after some time, so give it 70 years and you can probably be able to purchase one, if they decided it’s stealth isn’t very important anymore

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u/Resethel Jul 01 '22

Technically yes, but it will probably be demilitarized as this is controlled by the government.

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u/Salty_Efficiency_475 Jul 01 '22

Everyone asking HoW CaN TheY AfFoRd?! The financial crisis in Greece was like 8 years ago get with the times. Greece is under constant threat from turkey invading their airspace. Greece has some of the best military pilots who are constantly in conflict with Turkish air forces this is a nice addition to greece military forces.

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u/anevilpotatoe Jul 01 '22

Lol. Just after I've commented on the before, they put a whole new level of fear when going up against those baddies. They are Manuverable as fuck. Takes a really well trained pilot also. Airshows don't even give them justice.

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u/jibsand Jul 01 '22

It really has more to do with their onboard AWACS

Revolutionary for a fighter to command that kind of intel

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u/AWESOMESAUSE10101 Jul 01 '22

It's not their great kinematic performance in bfm that makes them scary, it's their networking, stealth, and advanced missiles that make them horrifying to fly against in any situation.

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u/Matteyothecrazy Jul 01 '22

yeah I mean, off-axis firing ASRAAMs? SHEEESH!

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