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Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes sentenced to 18 years for seditious conspiracy in Jan. 6 attack
https://apnews.com/article/stewart-rhodes-oath-keepers-seditious-conspiracy-sentencing-b3ed4556a3dec577539c4181639f666c5.5k
u/Schiffy94 11d ago
Prosecutors were pushing for 25 but I'll take it. He still won't be out until he's 76.
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u/StifleStrife 11d ago
Ironically you probably lose a lot of weight in prison? Idk I also don't wanna find out. He will for sure join the Aryans lol
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u/ABenevolentDespot 11d ago •
Prison food is cheap, and high in fat and salt content. Really, really high. If a prisoner is not careful, s/he will put on many pounds while incarcerated.
Having said that, this is a guy trained by the military who shot his own eye out while playing with a loaded gun. Clearly zero self control. So I expect to see him balloon up like that character in Whale.
Also, I keep thinking about what his estranged wife said:
"That asshole has been getting away with crazy criminal shit his entire life. I hope they finally nail his ass to the wall, the fucking idiot!"
Other rabid militia scum looking to overthrow our government should take this as a warning about fucking around and finding out, but that is remarkably unlikely because of how stupid they are.
Bye-bye Stewart. Your only possibility of release is if The Indicted Convicted Diapered Orange Shitstain gets to be president and pardons you.
The other possibility is that he's in the cell next to you. You just never know. If that does happen, try not to shoot his eye out.
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u/Jarfullofdoga 11d ago
The second any republican takes the White House every 1/6 conviction is getting a pardon so they can rerun the same play with fewer mistakes. I don’t know why there’s so much faith around here that our justice system isn’t irrevocably compromised.
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u/bigblackcouch 11d ago
You're putting way too much faith in the expectations that a GOP member would do anything to help out someone who doesn't "donate".
Otherwise I'd say you're spot on if this idiot were a millionaire.
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u/Th3_Admiral 11d ago
Exactly. Most of these people will be a fading memory by the next election. By the election after that they will be ancient history. The pundits and propaganda pushers will have long since found their next heroes/villains and Republican voters will have gone through several fake outrage topics by that point.
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u/enonmouse 11d ago
I dunno... he'd have trouble watching anyones back even his own. Prison is likely to be an eye opening experience for him.
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u/DicmoVolant 11d ago
Sleep with one eye open…
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u/SacrificialPwn 11d ago
76- perfect age for a Presidential bid, just right for the Senate but too old for the House. Definitely prime for a far-right national radio show/podcast. A portion of the country prefer having a sleazy, criminal grandfather control their thinking
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u/Halt-CatchFire 11d ago
I think you overestimate how important these figures are to the right.
No one will remember this guy in 18 years, we'll all be too busy dealing with the next batch of insane shit going on, and if we're still teetering at the brink of collapse there will be far more prominent fascists than a decrepit overweight clown who shot his own eye out and then got dumped in prison and forgotten about.
If you want to stay prominent in the griftosphere, you have to be divisive and put out content every waking moment. He can't do that from prison, so someone else is going to fill the gap he left
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u/eaglebayqueen 11d ago
He shot his own eye out? So much for safe firearm handling practices.
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u/Dedpoolpicachew 11d ago
With his conviction he’s not eligible to hold any office. 14th amendment, brah.
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u/SacrificialPwn 11d ago
Sadly, I don't believe you are correct kind sir/madam:
"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."
Edit: I wish it were the case though
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u/StopCensoringPeopleR 11d ago
As he has never held office, yes he can hold office.
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u/Same-Strategy3069 11d ago
This applies to officers in the military has well I would assume. Officer of United States includes officers in any branch. This guy was airborne.
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u/kashmill 11d ago
He joined the Army after highschool and was discharged 7 months later. There is no way he was an officer (not even a non-commissioned officer) in the army
Rhodes attended high school in Las Vegas, then joined the U.S. Army and was honorably discharged after seven months, the result of a spinal injury sustained during airborne school
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u/SpiritedTie7645 11d ago
You are correct. Technically a person in prison can be the POTUS but they cannot be there with a conviction of insurrection or rebellion.
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u/ltreginaldbarklay 11d ago edited 11d ago
Should add another 20 years for a charge of Felony Murder, since he has been convicted of being a participant in a felony during which Capitol Police Officer, Brian Sicknick, was murdered by the mob attacking the Capitol.
Capitol rioter admits to assaulting Officer Brian Sicknick, who died after Jan. 6
Every person in that mob should be getting at least 20 years based on the Felony Murder Rule alone.
Actually 40 years for at least two counts, because Ashli Babbitt, another attacker, was killed attempting to breach a chamber where members of Congress were sheltering. It doesn't matter that the person killed was one of the perps. It still counts.
Ashli Babbitt was not a peaceful protester. It’s clear why the cop who shot her was exonerated
The felony murder rule is a law in most states and under federal law that allows anyone who is accused of committing a violent felony to be charged with murder if the commission of that felony results in the death of someone. The people involved in the felony may be charged for murder under the rule even if they had no intention of killing someone. For example, if A and B attempt to rob a store and A accidentally killed an employee when breaking through a window, then both A and B could be charged with murder through the felony murder rule, even though B did not kill a person and A did not intend the outcome.
(Edit: At least its nice to finally see an actual conviction for literal "Seditious Conspiracy". Not long ago this guy would have been sent to Sing Sing to ride Old Sparky. He's getting off light. )
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u/Reimiro 11d ago
So true. Inner city guys get murder charges all the time for being around a murder.
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u/ltreginaldbarklay 11d ago
Biden needs to take his Executive Branch responsibility for Law Enforcement more seriously, stop being so soft on domestic terrorism and replace Merrick Garland with an AG that actually has balls.
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u/BasicDesignAdvice 11d ago
He will be pardoned by the next Republican president.
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u/214ObstructedReverie 11d ago
DeSantis just said today that he was planning to look at pardoning all the J6 treason fucks.
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u/bigblackcouch 11d ago
Of course he would. Fuckstain is literally just running a campaign of misery and outright evil. In a sane world he would be laughed out of running for being a fucking psycho. Unfortunately this is clown world where being a horrible shitbag somehow gets you a cadre of equally hateful assholes.
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u/theaviationhistorian 11d ago
He's competing against Trump in who will make America fascist. This timeline sucks.
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u/Twerks4Jesus 11d ago
Well average life expectancy for American men is 75. 🤞
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u/RanchBaganch 11d ago
Imagine…?
“Good news Stewart! You’re getting out tomorrow!” Drops dead.
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u/Flargthelagwagon 11d ago
Yea he wasn't at the Capital. He was in a hotel across the river with crates of guns and crew of men ready to use them. That counts buddy!
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u/Material_Strawberry 11d ago
It's as if he had planned, in cooperation with others, or "conspired" to commit sedition. Since he didn't, he wasn't convicted of sedition, though.
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u/northshore12 11d ago
Sure would be interesting all those deleted SS texts and Mark Meadows texts, to what degree they interact with Oaf Kreeper texts on J5 and J6. I'm sure Garland will think about possibly starting to get around to doing something about the guy at the center of it all....
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u/bNoaht 11d ago
Wait so you are telling me that if I start a gang, then plot and plan to rob a bank, send my crew into the bank, while I stay at the hotel with more of my crew and guns, to fight if things get too out of hand, that I committed conspiracy to rob a bank?
But what about my freedoms?
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u/hateboss 11d ago
He is high profile enough that him going to the Capitol likely would have run their whole operation off the rails because of the attention that he would have attracted. In order for them to have had any shot he had to stay away... So their pleas of "but he wasn't even there!" are incredibly disingenuous.
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u/Flargthelagwagon 11d ago
Oh yea. I mean he had radio contact with his people the entire time. There were Oath Keepers on site even ahead of the Proud Boys. The most definitely had a plan.
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u/GoldenFalcon 11d ago
They need to keep climbing the ladder. The person in charge of gathering them and sending them, whoever that may be.. should also be held accountable. Whoever that may be, I'm running a blank on who that is... But yeah.
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u/NCSUGrad2012 11d ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — The founder of the Oath Keepers extremist group was sentenced Thursday to 18 years in prison for orchestrating a weekslong plot that culminated in his followers attacking the U.S. Capitol in a bid to keep President Joe Biden out of the White House after the 2020 election.
Keep in mind this person founded the group. Evil piece of shit.
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u/BonesMalone2 11d ago
Also shot his own eye out. Also couldn’t get a glass eye because he’s not a big fan of “bathing “ and the socket got infected. All around dumbfuck.
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u/ineedshalp 11d ago
He was working as a gun instructor when he shot himself via dropping his gun. A2 safety first, yall!
But what i didnt know is that he was UNLV summa cum laude and got into yale AFTER the incident, which is honestly kind of inspiring, all things considered.
And he (25 at the time) married an 18 year old who he suggested to turn to ‘dancing’ to make ends meet, which might also be after the gun incident? They eventually had 6 kids (many that are outspoken adults now), and they escaped. He’s a divorcee like a lot of these right wing guys…
The ex-wife says “I am thrilled that he's finally facing justice.”
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u/rldogamusprime 11d ago
I fucking hate dudes like that. I don't like that those sorts of people insinuate themselves so heavily into 'manly' culture. Real men don't just not act like this. They're incapable of it.
He's obviously critically brain damaged. All of these people are fucking deranged. What is going on?
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u/Michael_G_Bordin 11d ago
What is going on?
Bitchass fuckheads who don't know what it means to be a man turn to other bitchass fuckheads who don't know what it means to be a man, creating this echo-chamber circlejerk of bad ideas. As a man in his early 30s, I constantly run into scared man-children who don't understand how I can be so secure and not constantly be measuring my masculinity against others.
My first advice to them: get advice on masculinity from feminists. There are aspects to toxic masculinity that are easy to parse, like value-dualism and value-hierarchy. If you can train yourself to stop viewing 'masculine' as 'good' and 'feminine' as 'bad', it goes a looooong way to deprogramming all the toxic bullshit us guys were taught.
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u/nicolauz 11d ago
It's real gross how these chuckle fucks act around people they think are like them. I definitely make a point to cut that shit out when they do, and they pucker up real quick with the Nazi bullshit.
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u/b0w3n 11d ago
Ah one of those "cleaning your ass is gay" racist incel types then?
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u/Gary-Fuckin-Oak 11d ago
It’s both funny and sad that people like that actually exist for real.
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u/Michael_G_Bordin 11d ago
It's fucking gross. People need to constantly remind them, they smell like shit. Not like a man, not manly, you smell like an unclean ass. Which is shit. Nobody likes the smell of shit.
It's an excessive attempt to utilize natural pheromones to attract women. They really need to know the golden rule of body scent (be that cologne or natural): your smell should be discovered, not announced. These shitty-butt morons announce everywhere they go that their ass is in fact shitty.
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u/Gary-Fuckin-Oak 11d ago
Oh, absolutely agree.
These machismo losers constantly wonder why they either can’t attract a woman, or wonder why they never stay long if they somehow do.
Like, bro. Natural pheromones =/= literal shit. It’s called waste for a reason. Wash yo ass, wash your balls, it’s not any gayer than jerking off. In fact, it’s less.
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u/JMoc1 11d ago
I had the unfortunate experience to listen to him on Knowledge Fight… yeeeeep.
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u/kkulkarn 11d ago
Did he really graduate from Yale law?
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u/__mud__ 11d ago
Bush Jr, too!
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u/DextrosKnight 11d ago
How do these schools maintain their good reputation when they seem to regularly spit out some of the worst people in the country?
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u/Jaxyl 11d ago edited 11d ago
Because their goals aren't about producing ethical members of society but productive and successful. While Desantis may be an evil piece of shit, he isn't stupid and he is 100% successful by most metric.
Edit: Yoo thanks for the RedditCares post! First time!
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u/Massive_Mistakes 11d ago edited 11d ago
The broblems with American society go even deeper
Edit: I'm not sorry, that's your broblem
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u/PhaseThreeProfit 11d ago
Broblem (noun). A problem caused by bros gaining positions of power and fucking every one else over in the process.
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u/Daniiiiii 11d ago
Republican voters who support Trump and Florida Man support this behavior and this guy would get pardoned day 1 of their administration.
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u/gsfgf 11d ago
this guy would get pardoned day 1 of their administration.
He at least thinks he would. Trump actually hates people like him, but the fact that guys like this think they'll get out the next time there's a Republican president is what emboldens them. We need to make seditious conspiracy a capital offense. A long prison sentence is no deterrent to someone convinced they won't have to serve it. You can't sit around waiting for a political pardon if you're dead.
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u/robywar 11d ago
DeSantis announced he'll "consider" a pardon for everyone involved with Jan 6th on day 1. Including Trump.
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u/cC2Panda 11d ago
DeSantis will say anything he thinks will help him win the primary, and if he does then he'll change and say whatever he thinks will win him the general. I trust DeSantis to be honest as much as I trust Trump to be.
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u/TuxPaper 11d ago
Saw this text in another thread, blatantly copying them as best as I can remember
Desantis: *says something playing directly to his base*
Us: He'll say anything to help him win
(Destantis becomes President)
Desantis: I'm now doing that outrageous thing I said I would during the election
Us: *shocked pikachu face*
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u/MisterCheaps 11d ago
Doesn't execution typically come like a decade or more after conviction anyway?
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u/MadMasterMad 11d ago edited 11d ago
Is this not the most treasonous someone can be? 18 years seems light considering the punishments seem much more severe for "passive" acts of treason, like leaking government Intel. I think he's lucky to keep his life.
Edit: Some of you have been kind enough to inform me that word choices here are especially important. His crimes don't seem to be considered "treason" in the eyes of the law. I guess 18 years is a Just sentence within the parameters of the crim and law. It still seems short for what it was. There are very long term effects we're seeing and will continue to see because of January 6th and he holds a great deal of blame.
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u/Affectionate-Winner7 11d ago
The maximum is 25 years. Why the 7 year reduction.
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u/JordanLeDoux 11d ago
The maximum for a crime often ignore the sentencing guidelines that judges follow, which is a table with different ranges.
A judge can sentence outside the guidelines once all factors have been included, but the sentence is not presumed to be "fair" if it is outside the guidelines and can then be challenged under the "unusual punishment" clause in the constitution.
Likely the maximum was outside of the guidelines in this case because he doesn't have like 10 previous convictions. Criminal record is a huge factor in the sentencing guidelines.
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u/THATS_MY_CELIUM 11d ago
Cooperation. A founder of a domestic terrorist group has some information the feds would find at least moderately interesting.
Guarantee he spilled beans.
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u/Morat20 11d ago
There's a complex set of rules for determining punishment on a federal level, because they want it to be uniform across America.
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u/PM-ME-FOR-CATNIP 11d ago
I hope that when the BOP does their pre-sentence investigation that they end up recommending he goes to a Maximum Security USP. But hell even if he gets sent to a Medium Security FCC, it's still going to be pretty rough for him in the beginning.
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u/Kahzgul 11d ago
Are you kidding? The Aryan Nation probably has shrines built to this clown.
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u/Krewtan 11d ago
You don't just get enrolled in Aryan gangs day 1. You usually have to do something that's going to keep you in there for life.
Or you know, you can always say no to them.
Federal medium/max is no joke, even if you're a nazi.
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u/Kahzgul 11d ago
I’m not saying he’d be automatically enrolled, but I am saying there’s people inside who are ideologically aligned with him.
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u/Alive_Ad9595 11d ago
Not as dumb as his lawyer:
A lawyer for Rhodes, who plans to appeal his conviction, said prosecutors are unfairly trying to make Rhodes “the face” of January 6. Attorney Phillip Linder told the judge that Rhodes could have had many more Oath Keepers come to the Capitol “if he really wanted to” disrupt Congress’ certification of the Electoral College vote.
Your honor, my client has the connections to armed individuals who could have caused a lot more damage then he did, so you need to let him out of jail even though he literally just said he'll do the same thing in 2024...
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u/CSI_Tech_Dept 11d ago
No, this was all intentional. He shot his left eye to own the libs.
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u/HoopOnPoop 11d ago
Yes, officer, I know I was doing 120 in a school zone, but you should let me go because at least I didn't run over any children.
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u/JackedUpReadyToGo 11d ago
I love how idiots see the eye patch and think he must have lost it in battle or something. No, the fat oaf just dropped his gun and it went off. He's the kid from A Christmas Story ("You'll shoot your eye out!") except he was a grown adult when he did it.
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u/PleaseEvolve 11d ago •
So he did shoot a terrorist..
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u/SheriffComey 11d ago
What we need to stop a bad guy with a gun is a.....bad guy with a gun?
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u/Divayth--Fyr 11d ago
And he has to wear the patch because he had a prosthetic eye, but he rarely cleans himself so it got all infected.
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u/VagrantShadow 11d ago
I'm certain he takes the eye patch as a badge of honor. He tries to use it to make himself feel cooler around others. He is an idiot and an asshole.
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u/Jolttra 11d ago
A lot of these fake macho guys who want to look tough are obsessed with scars and injuries because they think it makes them look tough. A lot of high-ranking Nazis had these huge scars all over their faces, and people 5 they got them in some great battle or something like that. In reality, most were either caused by fensing matches or self-inflicted with the specific intent of making a scar. They would also pack the wounds with straw to make the scars bigger. Nazis then and now are all the same.
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u/fuckingonlyposts 11d ago
It's amazing how 20/20 vision doesn't seem to prevent people from making terrible decisions.
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In fairness, he only ever saw things from the right.
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u/PM-ME-FOR-CATNIP 11d ago
People that scroll through reddit posts without ever going to the comments sections seriously don't know what they're missing out on.
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u/frugalwater 11d ago
When Matt Gaetz was asked about the sentence he replied, “18 years is way too old. Long, I mean long.”
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u/IT_Chef 11d ago
Gonna spend likely the rest of his life behind bars for Donald fuckin' Trump of all people.
Astounding waste of one's life.
And for what? What was the end goal here? King Trump?
Idiot
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u/Tankmaster5000 11d ago
All I can think of, is they just wanted to feel important, because the end goal was always stupid.
Nothing in the country was making their lives hard. I doubt they even believe half the shit they "fight" for.
They just wanted a reason to have cosplay get togethers and act like GI Joe's because they're insecure losers.
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u/justiceboner34 11d ago
Their lives are pathetic and meaningless, and they know it. They want us all to suffer like they do. Bye bye Stewart
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u/dern_the_hermit 11d ago
Their lives are pathetic and meaningless, and they know it
This has been simmering for decades, too
“To see the Hell’s Angels as caretakers of the old ‘individualist’ tradition ‘that made this country great’ is only a painless way to get around seeing them for what they really are,” Thompson writes in that book, calling them “the first wave of a future that nothing in our history has prepared us to cope with. The Angels are prototypes. Their lack of education has not only rendered them completely useless in a highly technical economy, but it has also given them the leisure to cultivate a powerful resentment… and to translate it into a destructive cult which the mass media insists on portraying as a sort of isolated oddity” destined for extinction.
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u/Striker654 11d ago
Blaming others for everything bad in your life so you don't have to own up to your own mistakes
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u/smutproblem 11d ago
Sad?! Dude, I'm elated. Keep it coming! Too many of these traitors got off easily.
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u/dizorkmage 11d ago
Read your comment and had to look, dude is 57 years old, guy straight up committed suicide for Donald Trump. Even if he lives to release, it's all over, no one will give a flying fuck about this guy in 18 years, no movie deal, no book signings, when the rest of his classmates are retiring this cyclops looking mother fucker gets to job hunt with a felony, cause who wouldn't want to hire a one-eyed convicted felon?
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u/anonymouswan1 11d ago
He's banking on Trump winning in 2024, as he and everyone else who has been convicted will be pardoned.
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u/Paddy_Tanninger 11d ago
Damn though where are they gonna get the $2M needed to buy a Trump/Giuliani pardon?
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u/tamman2000 11d ago
Sadly, a gofundme (or whatever that right wing christian version of it is) would find plenty of MAGA willing to chip in
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u/Nidcron 11d ago
They are hoping that's the case, but you know Trump doesn't like losers, so he'd probably say he'll get around to doing it, pay some lip service, and then only do it if he's forced into it somehow.
He'll probably just keep placating to the ones still out and able to do things rather than try and go through the "work" to give a pardon.
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u/ChooglinOnDown 11d ago
I almost feel sad for how these people nuked their existence for nothing.
Fuck them, they were trying to nuke our existence.
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u/ArugulaZ 11d ago
Scares the hell out of me knowing that nobody will actually put Trump in jail, and that he's likely to be a viable candidate for president in 2024. People say, "Oh, that could never happen again!," but they said that about him becoming president in the first place.
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u/cricket9818 11d ago
Yeah too many people around me already singing the “good thing it won’t happen again.”
I guess no one’s looking at polls. POS 100% gonna be the GOP nominee again
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u/SugarBeef 11d ago
They'll point out that nobody will vote for him over Biden, forgetting last time was far too close for comfort.
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u/BelCantoTenor 11d ago
Not me. It weeded out the herd of people who were opposed to a free democratic peaceful America. It pulled these dumb hicks out of their shanty towns and put them into jail. Know what you can’t do with a felony record? You can’t vote or own a firearm. This was the best thing that has happened to these people. It got them out of the way.
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u/TheMrGUnit 11d ago
Quick correction: in half of the states, released felons are allowed to vote immediately. In 3 of those states, they can actually vote while incarcerated.
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u/wild_quinine 11d ago
Controversially, I believe incarcerated prisoners should retain the right to vote. The social contract that says we can temporarily suspend human rights by incarcerating people becomes immoral if you then disenfranchise them. (Not to mention dangerous, because it incentivises it).
And honestly, if there are ever enough prisoners that they can swing a vote, you probably want them to be so empowered.
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u/hellomondays 11d ago
I thought atleast there must be a cool story behind the eye patch but it turns out he just shot his eye out when playing with a gun :
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u/Twerks4Jesus 11d ago
According to his ex wife it was during a drug deal.
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u/hellomondays 11d ago
The fact that he was doing something illicit at the time makes it a little less derpy, but still, what a derpy way to get the objectively coolest major injury.
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u/jx2002 11d ago
suuuure it was. "Drug deal" sounds so exciting, doesn't it? Versus "My dumb ass didn't know what I was doing."
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u/prailock 11d ago
In remarks before the judge handed down his sentence, Rhodes called himself a “political prisoner” and said his only crime is opposing those who are “destroying” the country.
He will never learn and very few if any of the Jan 6th terrorists will. They need to be removed from society either by jail or removal of citizenship. I know that you can't remove citizenship but I think that if you try to overthrow a government, are convicted of doing so, are on tape doing it, and brag about it for months, that you should be able to a part of that country ever again.
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u/SpaceCitySenior 11d ago
DeSantis came out today and said he was going to pardon any of them who he deemed "political prisoners." It's pretty clear that Rhodes and every single other J6 scumfuck are going to walk as soon as the GOP takes back the White House. The Dems would have to win the electoral college four or five times in a row to make sure Rhodes serves the full 18.
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u/workingtoward 11d ago
Pardoning people of seditious conspiracy seems like just more seditious conspiracy to me. These people are the true enemies of America and democracy.
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u/danbeardan 11d ago
Yeah uh, hello? Can't we prosecute based on these claims alone? "I will pardon all defectors" seems like a pretty heinous threat, it's like "hey overthrow the government for me and we can make a new paramilitary group called the Brown Boys or Trump Youth or something catchy you know?"
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u/blatantninja 11d ago
Disagree. They need to definitely win next year but by 2028, it will be old news that no one cares about outside a small minority
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u/LeagueOfficeFucks 11d ago
And besides, they will be too busy crying over the 2024 election being stolen.
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u/ksknksk 11d ago
Unless of course they actually manage to steal it, then all is fair in love and war right?
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u/jonathanrdt 11d ago
Unless there's yet another seditious incident (dont know what label to use). Domestic terrorism is being stoked in all ways with elections as a particular focus.
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u/ltreginaldbarklay 11d ago
Unless there's yet another seditious incident
If there's ever a 'next time', they need to be met by a hail of bullets from troops defending our democracy from domestic terrorism.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. – Thomas Jefferson
Any would-be Tyrants attempting to violently overthrow the results of a legal, democratic election by attacking our elected representatives, and those who are defending them, with the intent to kill, are volunteering to water that Tree of Liberty.
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u/Kahzgul 11d ago
You can't believe a word any Conservative says. They're Cons. They will say and do literally anything to seize power and maintain their grip on it. They are fine with treason, fine with dead children, and fine with removing women's rights. There is no reason to think (a) they will stop there or (b) that they can be trusted when they say anything, even when it's absolutely craven shit like "I'll release the Jan 6ers." It's all pandering to a rabid base of brainwashed, bloodthirsty morons with more lead in their heads than common sense.
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u/Prodigy195 11d ago
It's frustrating that he simply cannot point is ire at the people actually destroying America.
But by "destroying" he probably means "making it so that white heterosexual men can't say/do whatever they want without repercussions and have made is so that we no longer dominate all aspects of the economy and culture of America".
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u/dlc741 11d ago
"When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression"
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u/__M-E-O-W__ 11d ago
I'd rather keep him locked in a cell rather than relocate him out of the country so he can't continue to recruit and spread propaganda from outside of our jurisdiction. Now we need to do the same to the politicians who support them.
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u/KOBossy55 11d ago
The balls on this fucking guy.
He's completely insane and a traitor. May he die there of old age.
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u/grimatongueworm 11d ago
Trump: eye patch guy? Never knew him. Very weak. Weak family man. Bad jeans.
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Looks like you can spell seditious with one eye.
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u/Rockstar42 11d ago
Fun fact he got that eye patch because he accidentally shot himself in the face when he was a firearms instructor in 1993.
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u/Igoos99 11d ago
This is the first sentence that even approaches the kind of punishments deserved for trying to overthrow the government!!!
I’m just continually shocked that selling marijuana or stealing stuff can get you locked up for longer.
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u/IOnlyReplyToIdiots42 11d ago
How many got life sentence for being in posession of weed. Nothing makes sense.
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u/muchaschicas 11d ago
Not enough, but better than nothing.
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u/sgthombre 11d ago
I mean he's absolutely going to get pardoned if Trump or DeSantis win.
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u/Starbucks__Lovers 11d ago
58 years old, so he'll be out at the age of 76. What a way to waste the last good years of your life.
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u/Atkena2578 11d ago
“What we absolutely cannot have is a group of citizens who -- because they did not like the outcome of an election, who did not believe the law was followed as it should be -- foment revolution,” Mehta said. “That is what you did.”
“I dare say Mr. Rhodes, and I never have said this to anyone I have sentenced, you pose an ongoing threat and peril to our democracy and the fabric of this country"
Wow this judge was the MVP all along!
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u/bonyponyride 11d ago
Who else coordinated this seditious conspiracy? All rhodes lead back to Trump.
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u/hateboss 11d ago
The whole reason it's difficult to pin Trump down for intentionally doing or coordinating in anything he does is because he speaks in Mob Boss language. "Gee, sure would be awful if this guy got whacked". That way, when one of his cronies take action, he always has plausible deniability. He can always claim that he never directed anyone to do anything, that he was just speaking extemporaneously, and that the individuals themselves are responsible for their own actions.
Of course any crony who heard him float that hypothetical, knows it's an order and they are going to take the initiative to meet that goal to curry favor with him.
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u/neuromorph 11d ago
"Proud boys. If you are listening. STAND DOWN AND STAND BY" -TRUMP
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u/johnnycyberpunk 11d ago
What's nice about this story is that Rhodes didn't even get a chance to make a plea.
Mark Grods, Graydon Young, and Jon Ryan Schaffer were just some of the Oath Keepers who secretly and quickly agreed to testify/snitch as witnesses against Rhodes in their plea deals.
Even if he had bigger fish to fry he was still facing major prison time.
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u/Prudent-Release9906 11d ago
When is Sir Lindsay going to face charges for trying to throw out valid ballots in GA?
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u/daxelkurtz 11d ago edited 11d ago
Rhodes claims that he lost his eye during a secret mission for the army.
He lost his eye when he accidentally shot himself in the face.
During a class on firearm safety.
That he was teaching.
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u/rainorshinedogs 11d ago
Only.....18? There are people in jail for possession of weed pre weed legalization still in jail past that sentence
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u/TooManyPaws 11d ago
Defense lawyer Phillip Linder told the judge that prosecutors were unfairly trying to make Rhodes “the face” of Jan. 6, adding that Rhodes could have had many more Oath Keepers come to the Capitol “if he really wanted to” disrupt Congress’ certification of the Electoral College vote. If you want to put a face on J6 (Jan. 6), you put it on Trump, right-wing media, politicians, all the people who spun that narrative,” Linder said.
I’m fine with that. But it doesn’t mean this guy isn’t ALSO culpable.
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u/Underwater_Structure 11d ago
Great news! It's interesting that conservatives were blaming and probably still are, BLM and Antifa, but we haven't seen anyone affiliated with those groups linked to January 6th.
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u/26MayDraculaDay 11d ago
Had a couple of Oath Keepers run me off the road when I was out riding my first bike. One rode up behind me, less than a foot away. The other pulled up beside me and yelled GET OFF THE ROAD into my face. I pulled into a nearby parking lot, called my husband to calm myself down, and immediately drove back home. Got rid of the bike soon after.
Those assholes are fucking dangerous, and there are a few too many of them in my area.
I really hope membership declines after this, and they go back to hiding their idiocy behind their own closed doors.
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u/Lorazin 11d ago
Good.
So if this guy got 18 years, what does the guy who actually led the entire thing get?
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u/sonic_tower 11d ago
“The moment you are released, whenever that may be, you will be ready to take up arms against your government,” U.S. District Judge Amit Mehta said.
... then why release him ever?
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u/Hydrochloric_Comment 11d ago
Because the max penalty for seditious conspiracy is 20 years. Treason is also a bit weird; federal law requires persons found guilty of treason to be executed… or imprisoned for at least 5 years fined $10k.
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u/circa285 11d ago
Let's hope this has a chilling effect on far right groups.
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u/PixelFNQ 11d ago
I think it already has. Remember when Trump called for people to come and protest in New York City? And how many turned up? Was it like 50 people?
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u/ChadSurvivor 11d ago
Possibly the most important part of this was the sentence was enhanced because the crimes were terrorism related. That's not just academic or political. A federal judge has called them terrorists.