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DeSantis dismisses climate change, calling it ‘politicisation of weather’ article
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/desantis-climate-change-fox-news-b2345966.html#849
u/kinokonoko 11d ago
Tell me you are accepting Big Oil campaign donations without saying you're...
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u/Persianx6 11d ago
Listen, he's anti-woke. That means if Florida's burning down from a wildfire or experiencing stronger and stronger hurricanes, a libtard/scientist/someone who can read won't be the one to tell him why.
Soon he'll pass a "Don't Say Global Warming" bill and it'll be fine.
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u/Xyrus2000 11d ago
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That's the sugar-coated version. We needed to stop building coal plants about 20 years ago if we wanted to avoid 2C.
We'll exceed 1.5C by the end of this decade, with some predicting we may even hit that this year. We'll likely cross 2C by 2050 and hit 3C by the end of the century at the rate we're going.
And that's assuming there aren't anymore positive feedback triggers we stumble across.
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u/kaos95 11d ago
Yeah, anyone who understands even the edges of the science knows we're fucked.
I can get my cousin who is a recent PhD grad in some ecosystem science something, crying pretty hard when I start talking to her about some of the findings some of my buddies, from my masters program that continued on to the doctoral level, are getting from some of the deep Pacific current temps. I try to only talk to her about happy stuff.
So here's the thing, we fucking knew this stuff when I was working on my masters 20 years ago, it is still blowing my mind that people are still sticking their heads in the same at this point. Like, it's real, and it's happening right now.
I in the other hand am eagerly watching the Ross ice shelf and Greenland coverage maps cackling to myself.
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u/Aedan2016 11d ago
Exxon researchers were predicting the rate of warming back in the 70's/80's. They were strikingly accurate.
We know because that information was released not too long ago
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u/KritDE 11d ago
We really should be handing out life sentences and capital punishment
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u/AlkaloidAndroid 11d ago
One can dream of them working a prison job doing ocean and litter clean up for .15 an hour
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u/ItIsYourPersonality 11d ago edited 11d ago
It’s not that people in charge don’t know. It’s that their head immediately goes to “how do I profit from this?”
It’s the most selfish act in human history to see the only planet we have proven we can live on be on course to become inhabitable, and instead of fulfilling your nominated duty of serving the people and saving them from disaster, you use the situation to momentarily seize power and wealth over the rest of society.
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u/thebrokedown 11d ago
I knew that they didn’t care about my kids, I knew they didn’t care about poor kids or Brown kids. But it is actually been a little bit of a shock to me that they do not care about their own kids. I think that they believe that they will be able to ride above everything else on their cushion of money. You cannot believe how much I hope that is not true if they’re condemning the rest of us.
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u/Tagnol 11d ago
Why do you think musk considers it his duty to spread his genes as far as possible and wants so desperately to go to Mars? He legitimately believes his descendants will be able to abandon us to our fate on earth while his descendants live in proverbial terraformed ivory towers on Mars and basically control the destiny and wealth of those trapped on earth.
It's stupid and will never work like he thinks it will but everything I've seen points to that being his "endgame" plan.
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u/BurnTheBear 11d ago
I reckon there are a substantial number of people in the “head in sand” camp who also believe everything is “God’s Will”. Once you go far enough down that road, you can ignore things like climate change completely and tell yourself it’ll all work out by the grace of His divine plan. I’m not meaning to sound sarcastic either. If you listen to people on the far-right religious conservative spectrum in the USA, they are fully committed to ignoring science.
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u/Doomenate 11d ago
Soon he'll pass a "Don't Say Global Warming" bill and it'll be fine.
his predecessor did that with his staff
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u/Bocchi_theGlock 11d ago
Wasn't there a preemption bill that made it illegal for cities to measure air pollution?
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u/EpiphanyTwisted 11d ago
It's already been done.Ask the state scientists in Fla what two words they aren't allowed to say.
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u/boweroftable 11d ago
Fast archaeology searches are being done on the Florida coast, as tides seem to be rising every year. It’s time to legislate for lower tides. Ideological solutions have always triumphed. /s just in case
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u/DJ_Femme-Tilt 11d ago
He talks about climate change in the same dismissive tone he does about racism. At least he's giving up the whole game!
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u/Dead_Or_Alive 11d ago
He’s trying to do the dismissive “machismo” thing which appealed to Hispanics in Fl during the last election cycle. He will hide behind that on issues he doesn’t believe in or or doesn’t want to engage on.
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u/ianm82 11d ago
I mean, at this point, and aside from alllllll of the other things that should and ought to automatically disqualify DeSaster from holding any office, he's the fucking Gov of Florida which climate changes has directly in it's sights... What in the actual fuck?
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u/LOLBaltSS 11d ago
Yeah. Not only is that state likely to be literally underwater at some point, but even insurance companies are outright jacking up rates or refusing to underwrite new policies.
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u/ianm82 11d ago
It's ridiculous. The building codes in Southern Florida basically dictate that you have to put your house on 20 ft stilts. I truly cannot fathom how this guy was reelected or has any shit at becoming POTUS.
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u/Luster-Purge 11d ago
I would agree...except Trump got into the white house on nothing but populist speeches.
It looks like this asshat is trying to do the same, riding his massive popularity in being anti-woke and kicking Disney in the shins.
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u/fjvgamer 11d ago
The people who stand to make money off the disaster recovery of climate change are probably financing him.
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u/Metfan722 11d ago
I don't even think it's Big Oil. Because (at least where I am in NJ), I see a lot of ads about how they're looking into alternative fuel sources. Of course they never go into specifics, which why it's likely complete and total bullshit, but figured it's still worth mentioning.
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Says the brilliant politician from a state that is already experiencing the consequences of worsening climate change
From the algal blooms, to the sargassum bullshit on the beach right now and the king tides in the keys, y’all need to stop eating shit and vote these red coats out
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u/meresymptom 11d ago
Stealing that, lol. Rhonda Sandtits he is, now and forevermore
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u/IAmElectricHead 11d ago
It is known.
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u/mundaywas 11d ago
So let it be written...
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u/urkldajrkl 11d ago
And who happily collects federal disaster relief funds…
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u/Adventurer_By_Trade 11d ago
It's way cheaper than actually building a tax base from among the affected people. Something something personal responsibility....
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u/TifCreatesAgain 11d ago edited 10d ago
Well, and he has to spend sooo much money transporting emigrants up north! 🙄
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u/PomegranateOld7836 11d ago
The guy he chartered planes from at an insane cost is his friend and a major donor, so yeah he has to funnel millions in tax dollars his way. It's basically an imperative.
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u/Fantastic_Lead9896 11d ago
That finally makes sense. I was questioning how it took millions of dollars for like what 2 dozen immigrants.
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u/ClarkeYoung 11d ago
He doesn’t strike me as a guy that particularly cares if Florida collapses in on itself, so long as it’s after he’s moved on.
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u/tasman001 11d ago
Yep. Yet another Republican governor with presidential ambitions who will step on their state's neck to reach higher.
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u/TheyTrustMeWithTools 10d ago
Well I mean for the last few years he's been blatantly treating Florida as a stepping stone in his political career. And they're too dumb to notice.
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u/LooseEndsMkMyAssItch 11d ago
With you on most of that besides the algae blooms aka red tide. That is from waste and pollution in our waterways also thanks to DeSantis.and prior govs
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u/Zarathustra_d 11d ago
While runoff causes alge blooms, runoff is increased by climate change (more severe storms cause more storm water runoff, causing more blooms. Higher water temp also disrupts ecosystems, making them more vulnerable). So, a bit of both.
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u/BucBrady 11d ago
It's mainly due to waste and pollution in Florida. This issue only became a big issue for the state after they rolled back environmental policies preventing this from occuring.
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u/PomegranateOld7836 11d ago
It's multiple issues, but weather absolutely plays a role. Hurricane Ian spurred the bloom in October, and lack of northerly winds kept it from migrating south as usual, increasing the spread along the west coast. Bad climate and bad environmental policies work together to make things more terrible.
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u/tjjohnso 11d ago
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fevo.2021.646080/full
Waste and pollution are a part. But it is complicated, and warmer waters absolutely do exacerbate the problem.
There are many more articles out there. I felt this one did a decent job going into the multiple causes.
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u/ZooZooChaCha 11d ago
Or “a naturally occurring phenomenon” according to every Florida Republican
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u/Bocchi_theGlock 11d ago
Wasn't DeSantis elected in the 2018 primary because he was willing to stand up to big sugar corporations? Whatever came of that?
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u/Stalagmus 11d ago
As long as big sugar corps aren’t “going woke” they’re fine in his eyes
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u/scottriviera 11d ago
nothing like a Presidential candidate "politizing weather" by saying "they are politizing weather". The dude is a straight clown how can anybody get behind this scumbag? dirty money owns all these posers.
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u/Zender69 11d ago
When is he going to start saying that weather is "woke"?...OMG IS THAT A RAINBOW! SHOOT IT! IT WANTS TO RAPE OUR KIDS!/s
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He is a reflection of the demographic who elected him: mostly (but not exclusively) older, religious people who are scared to death of how unable to adapt they are to our ever-changing culture, and view said change, and difference of any kind, to an existential threat to their continued survival.
In a way, they’re not wrong: you either adapt to changing conditions, or die. But their pre-programmed worldview won’t let them, so they react with fear and disgust to anything unrecognizable to them.
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u/Eeekadoe 11d ago
Nearly all coral off florida mainland is dead. 98%. It's one of the worst hit places in the world.
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u/Imaginary_Flower_935 11d ago
Yep. Grew up snorkeling off the keys, right off the beach, and saw so many beautiful reefs. Went to college, came back and wanted to do it again. Reefs are pretty much gone, you have to take a charter boat out to one now and it lacks the biodiversity it used to have. It really bummed me out to basically witness a complete loss of a habitat in my lifetime.
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u/cheebamech 11d ago
yep, seen it bit further north as well: my family is from Fernandina Beach just north of Jax, the town went from the largest shrimping port on the east coast with hundreds of boats down to a half-dozen or so boats kept around mostly for the tourists, this all in the span of about 40 years.
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u/XxHybridFreakxX 11d ago
Not to mention all the problems with homeowners insurance. Most companies pulled out of the state and a few that did stay or charging out the ass for it.
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u/koshgeo 10d ago edited 10d ago
It's comical when you look at the situation. Sure, he can dismiss scientists.
Let's see what the free market says instead, that bastion of "telling it like it is" with its dollars. What's that? The insurance industry has either bailed on Florida or is charging outrageous prices because of the increasingly severe risks from weather-related events and sea level rise?
But, okay, what about the US military? There's almost nothing conservatives like DeSantis more than the military. Oh, wait, they've spoken on the matter too.
The true politicization of the issue is the people denying it or who don't want to do anything about it, like DeSantis. He's the one politicizing it by not listening to anybody but other politicians and others with a political reason for denying it. Meanwhile, Miami slowly drowns. Same for many other parts of Florida. Florida is one of the most vulnerable places in the US to climate change, and this is the guy in charge of the response. Florida is going to have enormous costs, and he's pretending the risks aren't real.
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u/msty2k 11d ago
Florida will suffer more than other states from climate change.
Much of Florida is a giant ancient coral reef. It is porous. Seawater can seep right in and poison the groundwater, killing plant life and making water undrinkable and unusable for crops. The only reason it doesn't is freshwater flows outward and pushes the seawater away. But even a small sea level rise could overwhelm that balance, and there's almost nothing that can be done about it. They can't build a seawall to keep the rising water out because it goes underground. It's already a problem in parts of Florida.→ More replies→ More replies5
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u/Hayes4prez 11d ago
“Can you believe how liberal this heat is today? I can’t believe it.”
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u/zR0B3ry2VAiH 11d ago
The woke ocean is flooding my state, we must eradicate the gays.
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u/jayfeather31 11d ago
For being the leader of a state that would arguably suffer the most from severe climate change, he's got some nerve!
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u/Honalana 11d ago
Right?? Aren’t the keys literally sinking from rising sea levels due to climate change?
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u/SarcasticOptimist 11d ago
They're importing sand ffs. Billions of dollars. Noho Hank and Cristobal would be proud.
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u/esther_lamonte 11d ago
Well, consider that his plan is to use up Florida and toss it to the curb when he moves to DC. He doesn’t think of Florida problems as his problems.
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u/Zarathustra_d 11d ago
They have land they need to unload on all the morons moving to FL and TX. Can't do that if you accept that land will be worthless in a generation.
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u/Cycleguy57 11d ago
The “stupid” is accelerating.
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u/scarytruth1111 11d ago
What you really mean is its profitable to take advantage of the stupid. Best believe when the climate finally turns against humanity folks like DeSantis will be safe and secure.
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u/DoubleScorpius 11d ago
“There’s a sucker born every minute”
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u/scarytruth1111 11d ago
The real problem is the suckers are heavily armed and ready to destroy America if they don't get their way.
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u/skokage 11d ago
Naw, after reading Cormac McCarthy’s The Road i have faith people with no actual survival skills like DeSandtits will be the first to drop. His security detail will turn against him the second it’s beneficial for them to do so.
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u/Hunky_not_Chunky 11d ago
Just wait. The Supreme Court just shot down the EPA’s hold on wetlands. You think Desantis is gonna sign bills to protect the Everglades or any other ecologically rich lands in Florida?
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u/On_The_Contrary_24 11d ago
Really is infuriating that one of the two major parties in the country flat out rejects science and is in favor of completely fucking us over more and more.
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u/CardiologistThink336 11d ago
In a Pew Research survey last September, 24% of Republicans said they think scientific experts are typically better than others at making good policy decisions about scientific issues, compared to 55% of Democrats.
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u/dunkel_weizen 10d ago
How the hell is it only 55% of Democrats.
This is fucking depressing.
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u/piratey_goodness 11d ago
And the other one is a mixture of people who want to do something about it, people who pretend to, and people who work for the oil industry. Not a great mix overall.
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u/On_The_Contrary_24 11d ago
Yeah, no argument there.
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u/piratey_goodness 11d ago
Cool system we got.
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u/On_The_Contrary_24 11d ago
Really need to implement ranked choice voting everywhere. Not that it would magically fix everything, but would be a step in the right direction.
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u/kyuuketsuki47 11d ago
He's the fucking Gov of Florida. The state with a literal sinking city (Miami) that they need to solve FAST otherwise it's going to be a real life Atlantis.
Not to mention the dying coral... (though that isn't 100% on climate change).
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u/SupermarketOverall73 11d ago
The dead reef is from years of dredging sand (silt), and dumping of sewage.
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u/kyuuketsuki47 11d ago
Absolutely, but climate change also has an impact. However in the case of Florida nitrogen in the water and lack of nutrients for coral growth are the main culprits. But the warming and acidification of the water is also a well known stressor to corals that result in bleaching and death.
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u/IronMike69420 11d ago
There’s a massive effort to introduce concrete artificial reefs. They’re huge and they make more every day. Stacking up near the skyway bridge
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u/philodendrin 11d ago
From the Governor who is politicizing books, education, gender, sexuality, Disney and Covid.
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u/smiffus 11d ago
...and climate change. people seem to overlook the fact that he is in fact the one politicizing the issue by denying the science and saying it's political.
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u/Imtherealwaffle 11d ago
100%. Republican oposition largely makes it a politicized issue. Otherwise it would just be a fact/scientific trend.
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u/Party-Travel5046 11d ago
If the Dems say his wife is a cis- woman will he oppose them and call her gender fluid for sake of simply owning the libs?
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u/General-Macaron109 11d ago
Ronny is the one wearing heels all of the time. I think she's the cis woman.
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u/HopelessAndLostAgain 11d ago
Don't ask for federal aid after the next hurricane
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u/buksrevenge 11d ago
Floridians become instant Marxists in the wake of storm damage.
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u/Bitch_Posse 11d ago
He also dismisses Covid calling it the politicalization of corpses.
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u/third0burns 11d ago
A vote for republicans is a vote for the end of the world. It's really that simple
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u/21CntrySchtzoidtrans 11d ago
Wasn’t Fort Lauderdale looking like Waterworld less than a few months ago?
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u/dragonfliesloveme 11d ago
Translation: “I know climate change is real, it couldn’t be more obvious, but I am paid by Big Oil to say this crap and to keep the laws in Big Oil’s favor. I am a pathological asshole, devoid of compassion or empathy, this is how I am able to choose being bought rather than give one single shit about my children’s future.”
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u/Jeramus 11d ago
Tell that to the insurance companies raising rates for homeowners in Florida.
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u/anselbukowski 11d ago
Either raising rates or bailing out altogether. After tripling our premium over 2 years, our insurance company informed us that they'd not be renewing our policy this year as they'd be leaving at the end of the year. And they just happen to be the largest home insurer in the state. There's about to be a fuck ton of people looking for a new company. The laws of supply and demand bring us back to your link.
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u/parabuthas 11d ago
I wonder his new buddy Elon will say about this? 🤔
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u/CaliforniaF0g 11d ago
Elon already milked Democrats out of all the Tesla cars they will buy. He will probably pivot to brag about how lithium battery production owns the libs with its high environmental toll.
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u/parabuthas 11d ago
Good point. Mofo would have not succeeded to grow Tesla without CA help (regulation they passed etc). Then runs to Texas. Fuck him.
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u/BeefsteakTomato 11d ago
Nah he's still pandering to the right to sell cybertrucks because he realized that no one wants to buy electric trucks.
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u/DolphinsBreath 11d ago
The governor went on to say that he believed emissions could be reduced by encouraging innovation in the private sector,…
But why then? Why reduce emissions?
For what it’s worth, I think everyone is opposed to “politicization of the weather”. I’m also opposed to playing politics with people’s private lives. How about you, Governor?
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u/Wiliva0202 11d ago
This dumb F$&ks state is sinking, hurricanes are more intense causing millions of dollars of damage, but this fool will do whatever it takes to win over the maga trashholes.
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u/Fivethenoname 11d ago
If I didn't already draw the line way wayyyy long ago, this would have done it. Farmers are starting to feel the effects of climate change now and understand that it's happening and that we need to do something about it. A lot of farmers are even willing to change the way they farm to keep their soil healthy. Attacking the environmental movement is very unpopular and it's going to continue to get less popular as demographics shift.
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u/sewand717 11d ago
Does anyone trust his judgement? He’s made an unbroken string of wrong calls on COVID (Florida had a higher than average death rate), climate change (the science of greenhouse gases was settled decades ago), gun control, Ukraine, etc. His policies begin and end with troll-ism. He’s a useless twit who does nothing to make anyone’s lives better.
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u/Maximum_Bowl4044 11d ago
Hmmm climate and weather are not the same. But I guess it's a moot point....
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u/oldcreaker 11d ago
"I call your politicization of weather and raise you a politicization of climate".
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u/Joey_BagaDonuts57 11d ago
The next set of hurricanes will not be nice to him or the Florida fools.
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u/ghettoccult_nerd 11d ago
is Desantis running some type of short sell on florida or something? this guy JUST awarded 1.5$M in flood relief funds. its obvious Florida needs to adjust for WHATEVER you want to blame the rising waters on. call it whatever.
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u/Itszdemazio 11d ago
Funny everyone thinks the problem is the state going underwater. The actual problem is already occurring. Which is salt water is seeping into the aquifers because sea level is.. rising. 50 years from now most of the aquifers will be fucked. You can’t even build a wall around Florida. The water will just go under it.
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u/AphoticDev 11d ago
Listen, it's not the rest of us sitting less than two inches above the ocean. We fuck around and it's gonna be his people who find out first.
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u/Lonnification 11d ago
I have never voted for a Democrat for president (in fact, I just voted for my first Democrat in the last mid-terms), but I will be voting for whoever the Democratic nominee is in 2024. Unless it's Kennedy. That guy's as nuts as Trump and DeSantis.
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u/BulljiveBots 11d ago
Gotta love it from the state most likely to end up under water due to climate change.
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u/FunnyBunny335 11d ago
Strange because Florida is literally building their waterfront structures with sea level rise factored in.
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u/Webgiant 10d ago
There is a delightful movie from the 1980s called "Erik the Viking," directed by and acted in by Terry Jones of Monty Python fame. One subtle theme in the movie is the nature of belief.
A scene towards the middle concerns a man sitting on the highest point of an island that is literally sinking around him (Ancient Curse basically), who says to some people on a boat, "Hi, it's not happening!"
I think of this every time I hear a climate change denier say anything denying climate change. They're standing on the same Earth experiencing climate change destruction, saying, "Hi, it's not happening!"
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u/nightcycling 10d ago
On May 25 Democracy Now just announced we officially entered our 6th mass extinction. So yeah Ron...do whatever you like.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Force14 11d ago
How ridiculous. Well he can explained that to Floridians as they flood
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u/Jazzlikeafool 11d ago edited 11d ago
Dismiss Climate change evidently; he has not been paying attention satellite photos of his state, Florida has gotten a lot smaller, it's going back into the sea Sea level has risen melting ice
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u/workingtoward 11d ago
DeSantis must ask himself every day what can he do or say to alienate as many Independents and Democrats as possible.
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u/drossvirex 11d ago
Aounds like Trump all over again. The champion of big oil greed vs future generations survivability.
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u/willthedude85 11d ago
Beg for more socialism in 2023 after you get rocked by politicized hurricane haha! I dare ya.
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u/routerg0d 11d ago
He’s young enough he will die seeing half of Florida under water.
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u/theycallme_JT_ 11d ago
I can't wait until Florida falls into the ocean. And i say this as someone with parents who relocated to Sarasota, whom i love very much.
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u/Plateau9 11d ago
Progressive leader replies: Don’t piss down my back and tell me it’s raining you swarthy turd…
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u/mcfearless0214 11d ago
He says this, ironically, as the governor of Florida which is guaranteed to be one of the hardest hit states in the coming decades.
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u/TobyADev 11d ago
People vote for this idiot? Honestly if he becomes president nothing good will cone of it
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u/form_an_opinion 11d ago
I've had a lot of people tell me this fucker is smart, but I think there is ample evidence to the contrary.
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u/alexanderhope 11d ago
Hey, if you’re reading this comment and you like Ron DeSantis, I just wanted to let you know that you’re a fascist, anti-American, dolt.
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u/wonteatfish 10d ago
This is the Republican Party. This is how fascism works. Keep voting Republican, suckers, and you’ll get exactly what you deserve.
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u/bart2019 10d ago
That is backwards. The refusal to acknowledge climate change, that is the real politicization of weather. It's all projection.
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u/7788audrey 10d ago
Well then, why do you Gov DS continue to demand funds from the FED everytime your State receives a slate of bad weather - just write it off to bad weather in FL - all Floridians need to get over themselves, especially because most Insurance companies will no longer provide property insurance due to all the "negative weather events" in Florida.
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u/FreedomsPower 10d ago
The art of politicizing climate science while scapegoating everyone else for your own partisan attacks on it.
What a buffoon
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u/NocturnalEngineer 10d ago
For anybody who hasn't watched Don't Look Up, you're about to witness the main premise.
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u/Apprehensive_Aide805 10d ago
It was barely winter last year. We had light snow in February but that’s about it it was pretty warm all last year.
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u/bidhopper 11d ago
Miami will soon be treading water. I wonder what excuse the asshat will have then.