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This video from 1923 shows a U.S. biplane creating a smoke screen to conceal itself in open waters.

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u/TrentUlyssesCooper Jul 01 '22

Conceal itself or other ships?

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u/Grant_Sherman Jul 01 '22

Ships

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u/darkpaladin Jul 01 '22

This was back when we still thought of naval warfare as two lines of ships shooting at each other, most/biggest guns win. Aircraft carriers ended all of that.

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u/whooo_me Jul 01 '22

Nah. We just need a horizontal smokescreen across the top and more on the sides.

So now we have a smokebox, they’ll never think to shoot us in there…..

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u/st333p Jul 01 '22

Bet you didn't think of submarines

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u/moonhexx Jul 01 '22

The vape nation dive team, "The Bubble Bouys", are ready.

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u/dodexahedron Jul 01 '22

Smoke on under the water?

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u/st333p Jul 02 '22

The fire in the sky

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u/KingSlareXIV Jul 01 '22

No problem, just need a layer of smoke under the water too, problem solved.

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u/Praxician94 Jul 01 '22

Sounds like we need underwater smoke too

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u/MooseLaminate Jul 01 '22

Smoke screens were/are still a thing mind you.

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u/CryingEagle626 Jul 01 '22

Yeah and hypersonic missiles are gonna end aircraft carriers.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '22

Sounds like a new card game

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u/youjerkfaceyou Jul 02 '22

Also guns that can target over the line of horizon.

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u/rgeek Jul 01 '22

Only for a short time though. Remember, smoke screens are torpedo magnets.

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u/Special_Request_Chit Jul 01 '22

Yeah, and like a typical destroyer player they are hanging out broadside in the smoke.

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u/FinalAssist4175 Jul 01 '22

More like covering the enemy ship to prepare for bombing runs and torpedo runs. https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a34240046/airplane-makes-battleship-disappear/

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u/WeReallyOutHere5510 Jul 01 '22

Only correct answer on here, mind blowing. Everyone is so smug with their wrong corrections lol

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u/FinalAssist4175 Jul 02 '22

I was shock when i saw this on the yt channel : It's Not What You Think. Now thinking about it those plane who deployed the smoke curtain are daredevils.

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u/DMaknCheese Jul 01 '22

It wasn't to conceal itself, but to provide concealment for their ships to maneuver.

Also pretty sure that smoke was corrosive.

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u/FinalAssist4175 Jul 02 '22

It's for the planes, a preparation for bombing run and torpedo runs. That ship is their target. And yes that smoke is highly corrosive and dangerous.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a34240046/airplane-makes-battleship-disappear/

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u/locotte Jul 01 '22

Surely has to be other ships and not the plane itself...

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u/a_crusty_old_man Jul 01 '22

Right? Gee, I wonder where that fog emitting plane is? Is it over there where the fog is coming from?

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u/toastbot Jul 01 '22

Obviously that's one of the decoy fog emitting planes, is this your first war or what?

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '22 edited 27d ago

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u/FinalAssist4175 Jul 02 '22

Hahaha. Actually everyone else who thought its for the ships are the ones who got it wrong.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '22 edited 27d ago

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u/FinalAssist4175 Jul 02 '22

Nope but your comment is ignorant AF.

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u/FinalAssist4175 Jul 01 '22

It would be the other allied planes and that ship is the target for a attack run.

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u/FinalAssist4175 Jul 02 '22

Its for the planes, not for the ship. It's a curtain for bombing run.

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u/Poat540 Jul 01 '22

Guys, just going to create this asbestos and plutonium smoke screen real quick

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u/GrandPuissance Jul 01 '22

Yeah my first thought was that smoke is thick and probably super toxic. They did not give one fuck back then about ecological consequences.

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u/karlito1613 Jul 01 '22

At least we give half a fuck now

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u/ARandomEncouter Jul 01 '22

We give so much of a fuck the army is trying to have environment friendly tanks lol

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u/Ludwigofthepotatoppl Jul 01 '22

Nothing wrong with that. Oughta take proper care of all the veterans suffering from the burn pit stuff before they buy any more tanks, but that’s just my opinion.

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u/oldfashionedguy Jul 01 '22

It’s a good opinion.

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u/ARandomEncouter Jul 02 '22

Im not criticising the military for this, lots of things in life could really be improved if we did it like the us military. Like management, instead of having high capability people and no social skill or that are not likeable, the mils prefer to have people that are good with people and know what they are doing without being the best at it. Instead, civilian management you have assholes that get results but they are tyrants and nobody like them

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u/lazyeyepsycho Jul 01 '22

Not getting hit by a 6inch cannon shell probably was a bit more important.

But yeah, I'm sure effectiveness was 100% the consideration rather than the health of the fish in the water.

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u/thedarkonespr0npicks Jul 01 '22

While shells in the 6" range were more (most?) common, some ships had guns with barrels that could handle 18" shells.

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u/EEESpumpkin Jul 01 '22

Well it was a war…I don’t think being eco only friendly is a priority when the end game is to fuck up the other side

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u/Anemoneao 18d ago

What’s the point of war if there’s nothing to live on lol

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u/graveybrains Jul 01 '22

I looked it up the last time somebody posted it, it’s this stuff:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium_tetrachloride

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u/BabaGnu Jul 01 '22

Chemists call it "tickle 4." Fuming liquid that reacts with moist air to generate TiO2 and HCl. Used to work with it for making sol gels.

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u/too_high_for_this Jul 02 '22

That's... not really that bad at all. Wouldn't want to breath it in but it's not gonna give you cancer or anything

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u/FinalAssist4175 Jul 02 '22

"according to the U.S. Air Force, is a colorless liquid that reacts with air moisture to form smoke consisting of hydrated titanium acid and hydrogen chloride" Link: https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a34240046/airplane-makes-battleship-disappear/

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u/RonConComa Jul 01 '22

Does any one know what chemicals were used to create this smoke? This is hellova lot of smoke for this little plane...

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u/iCastFoetusDeletus Jul 01 '22

titanium tetrachloride

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u/thedarkonespr0npicks Jul 01 '22

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_screen#Titanium_tetrachloride

There are also multiple other videos on YouTube if you want to see more.

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u/RonConComa Jul 01 '22

Thank you.

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u/ARandomEncouter Jul 01 '22

Probably white phosphorous and and some other heavy mix of heavy stuff

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u/Maximum-Excitement58 Jul 01 '22

Yeah… because leaving a trail of smoke is a great way to “conceal” yourself.

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u/DeezNuts70520 Jul 01 '22

It was to conceal ships hiding behind the wall of smoke

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u/SixNineWithTheAfro Jul 01 '22

Well, the plane could be at either end of the smoke line. They’ll never figure it out!

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u/Special_Request_Chit Jul 01 '22

The title is a bit of a misnomer. The intent was the ship launched the biplane and the plane let out a smoke screen to hide the ship. There are many articles in wikipedia on major naval battles where smoke screens were used. Radar pretty much put an end to that as a truly effective tactic though.

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u/FinalAssist4175 Jul 02 '22

It's not for the biplane but the next planes that are for bombing run or torpedo runs. That ship is their target

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u/doomiestdoomeddoomer Jul 01 '22

*To conceal it's parent Battleship.

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u/Emotional_Translator Jul 01 '22

You mean conceal the ship

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u/davieb22 Jul 01 '22

Eh? Isn't the trail of smoke gonna make the plane even more visible?

I mean, in any case, would it not be flying above the smoke?

It already successfully flown past without a smoke screen, what is it gonna double-back on itself?

Soooo many questions.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '22

It’s not about the plane, it is a biplane launched from a ship to conceal said ship.

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u/PowerfulGrapefruit38 Jul 01 '22

In this video it is used in order to create something like a wall which would be used to hide other planes allowing them to get closer in order to execute bobbing runs 👍

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u/poordecisionswere Jul 01 '22

Setting the stage for the most expensive game of battleship ever.

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u/Potential-Caramel-91 Jul 01 '22

The beginning of chem trail testing

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u/AnInnocentGoose Jul 01 '22

I smell dark souls boss

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u/casualoptc Jul 01 '22

The rumbling has begun

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u/THE_UNKNOWN184 Jul 01 '22

Buffed phoenixs' wall

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u/NEFlamee Jul 01 '22

Super high level tactic

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u/WreckerCrew Jul 01 '22

It's not concealing itself, it is concealing the ships on the other side of the sheet of smoke.

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u/FinalAssist4175 Jul 03 '22

Yup not for himself but it is for other friendly aircraft for attack runs against that ship. You can see the link I've posted about it.

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u/yagura_of_mist Jul 01 '22

Just majestic

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u/Homo-sapien-guy Jul 01 '22

Plane used smoke screen! His evasiveness rose!

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u/wintremute Jul 01 '22

This is a smoke curtain to hide ships from other enemy ships.

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u/FinalAssist4175 Jul 02 '22

Nope, it's for the plane. Its a chemical mixture to cover the incoming torpedo run or bombing run.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a34240046/airplane-makes-battleship-disappear/

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u/Liuminescent Jul 01 '22

This whole thread: “AkShullY iTs HiDiNG tEh sHiPs” 🥸

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u/Current-Escaper Jul 01 '22

Cunningham’s Karma

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u/arcosapphire Jul 01 '22

Such is this issue with "engagement" as a metric.

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u/Marton_Kolcsei Jul 01 '22

i swear if they add this to World of Warships i'll quit

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u/Xadenek Jul 01 '22

Talk about smoke on the water. Thank you, have a good night.

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u/FinalAssist4175 Jul 01 '22

Wasn't this the opposite? I've heard and watch from a docu. that they do this to cover incoming allied planes while they doing a bombing run and torpedo run. Follow up link: https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a34240046/airplane-makes-battleship-disappear/

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u/Oz_of_Three Jul 01 '22

PROJECTION LIGHT SHOW!!!
where are the lasers?
I heard there was a flying pig.

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u/RBLogic Jul 01 '22

Could use that for nosey neighbors.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '22

So cool

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u/puertorizzle Jul 01 '22

This could make for an epic scene in a movie

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u/Enough-Persimmon3921 Jul 01 '22

Is this the fog of war?

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u/AbeybabySigNu Jul 01 '22

It’s like they were playing battleship one day and then suddenly bam.. giant real life smoke screen.

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u/NN8G Jul 01 '22

Yes. A great big, white, hundred foot high wall of smoke coming out its ass is how a plane hides from view.

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u/Felipesssku Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22

Ok so we have this in 1923 but whenever conspiracy theory says that government can make clouds and trails or steer weather it's fake.... They have technology you're unaware of. Do you get it now? They had 100 years to upgrade every military technology they have.

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u/Fortnite_the_best69 Jul 01 '22

“HONEY Were’s my supersuit” “waaat” “WERE IS MY SUPERSUIT”

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u/Magsnohlia Jul 01 '22

Biplanes effing rule.

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u/ThrowAwayGcPx8ow2t4 Jul 01 '22

First time I've seen a smokescreen that is actually a screen made out of smoke.

Most of the time they're just blobby clouds of smoke.

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u/broke_the_controller Jul 01 '22

Chem trails are real

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u/nomnaut Jul 01 '22

And this is how misinformation spreads on Reddit. People upvote horrifically incorrect titles.

No, this plane did not drop a smoke screen to conceal itself.

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u/FinalAssist4175 Jul 03 '22

Yup. And this shows how gullible people are. Also the title is correct but not for the one who drops but to cover as a curtain for incoming bombing run. Thats why the curtain is so high. That ship is not a friendly.

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u/theosphicaltheo Jul 02 '22

Conceal the ship it took off from

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u/Sgt-Automaton Jul 02 '22

Radar dgaf about smoke

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u/My_Lucid_Dreams Jul 02 '22

Radar dgaf about smoke

That will be an important point to remember about a decade after this video was taken.

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u/Drewbeede Jul 02 '22

B,9. Miss. G,6. Miss

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u/InsomniaticWanderer Jul 02 '22

"Sir! I think the enemy ship is behind that giant wall of straight vertical smoke!"

"Fire on that smoke, boys."

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u/nice_wholphin Jul 02 '22

“Hey Jim wonder where those darned ships went”

“Maybe they behind that large smokescreen there Tim”

“Nah that’s probably just a big wave it’s fine”

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u/supagirl277 Jul 01 '22

It’s for a boat, not itself