We see you Kevin!

[u/Arkbud93]

[u/KnowsAboutMath]

The bill referenced is - of course - entirely rhetorical. It's not something that's ever meant to become law. Its purpose is to make this very point.

[u/destakob → u/KnowsAboutMath]

AteTheOnion whole, shit it out and regrew more onions.. wow.. these are our "public servants" ladies and gentlemen..

[u/GodOfDarkLaughter → u/destakob]

The man has an onion for a tongue. Everything he says is divorced from consensus reality.

I was gonna say he had onions for balls, but then I remembered at least one of his daughters has spoken out against him (and I imagine the other kids aren't super pleased about being blamed as his reason for fleeing Texas like the coward he is during the blizzard/mass outages).It would also presuppose he actually still has balls, when I imagine they've atrophied to the point of falling off since Trump insulted his wife and father, whereupon Cruz decided his best move was to try to raise money for Trump

[u/Oiram-Zehcnas → u/GodOfDarkLaughter]

Any balls he still has are in some billionaire's office as a trophy.

[u/DaisyHotCakes → u/Oiram-Zehcnas]

I bet it wouldn’t even take a billionaire to buy his soul. He seems like a Pat Toomey level of corrupt where like $20 would buy him. Pat Toomey sold us all out for $12k from telecom companies to kill net neutrality.

[u/Lost_my_brainjuice → u/DaisyHotCakes]

Republicans are super cheap to buy.

My Senator loves to brag about how she got her kids jobs with big business in exchange for a few votes. The contributions she took are only a few thousand and she was happy to oppose everything good for her constituents for 5k here, 600 there. It cost less than 10k to propose a bill to make it illegal to enforce drug laws against opiods, in a state with an opioid epidemic.

She voted to close the local army base, where most of her votes came from. Just an insane mess and many people here deny it happen and blame Democrats who didn't hold the seat...

[u/hearonx → u/Lost_my_brainjuice]

Who on earth? I need to read about this.

[u/Lost_my_brainjuice → u/hearonx]

She also had a news program cut off an interview because she kept repeating the (false) talking points for a different topic, she forgot what she was there for and didn't listen to the question. She also asked the CEO of Google if they fired an employee who made negative comments about her (not professionally, just on their personal time, as with everyone else they despised her). Marsha Blackburn is insane, but she barely moves the needle anymore compared to Boebert and MTG.

[u/EthanielRain → u/Lost_my_brainjuice]

Removing the criminal aspect of addiction is great, if you replace it with rehab & therapy. Way more effective than just tossing them in jail. Of course, I know we aren't really talking about the same thing, I'm sure she wasn't trying to reform the laws based on scientific studies & data to improve outcomes & reduce costs with a comprehensive, caring overhaul of a common epidemic

[u/HavingNotAttained → u/GodOfDarkLaughter]

I tied an onion to my belt which was the style at the time.

[u/Kriffer123 → u/HavingNotAttained]

Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on em. "Gimme five bees for a quarter," you'd say

[u/No_Swordfish3175 → u/HavingNotAttained]

Was it a yellow or white onion?

[u/Q-ArtsMedia → u/No_Swordfish3175]

Red.

[u/HighMont → u/destakob]

Ted Cruz is an idiot. But he probably knows that the intent is to prove the point that the government shouldn't be involved in reproductive health.

He doesn't care, and spreads it anyway because he knows the average conservative voter won't make the connection. The only thing they will get from this is "Wow, Democrat man scary. Want take away penis."

It's actually a pretty stupid move on the part of that democratic senator, I'd say. The people who "get it" are already pro-choice. The people who are pro-life will not "get it".

[u/PistolNinja → u/HighMont]

This is sadly more true than people care to admit. Dem or Rep, they know the masses aren't actually reading anything but the headline or a hash-tag and then assuming the rest. They feed off of it.

[u/CarrieFisherStevens → u/HighMont]

And those on the fence probably don’t check his Twitter.

[u/Prime157 → u/destakob]

Sort by controversial, and you'll see a ton of morons who don't get it.

[u/abegyunahboddami → u/Prime157]

Sort by controversial

Nah, I never do that. I like being somewhat sane. I'd lose my mind if I tried to read some of those comments.

[u/Stopikingonme → u/Prime157]

The liberals are coming for my sperms!!

[u/adooble22 → u/Prime157]

Fuck, why did I do this

[u/Even-Willow → u/adooble22]

Fingers crossed those absolute shit takes are coming from people under 25 and by the time their brains finish fully developing, they’ll be able to lose those hateful feelings they’ve been groomed into believing, many since childhood. Sad.

[u/Firm_Transportation3 → u/[deleted]]

From what I've heard, Boebert actually believes in the shit she fights for, which is kind of scarier than the ones who just do it for money and power. She's a complete idiot and believes wholeheartedly in her bullshit.

[u/MustHaveEnergy → u/destakob]

Ted Cruz definitely understands, he just wants to stir the pot

[u/-paperbrain- → u/destakob]

I'm about 95% certain Cruz is fully aware that the bill is meant to be a rhetorical attack

But the GOP base is not, and throwing out red meat for them to hate on liberals is a good way to secure enthusiasm.

He's not eating the onion, he's feeding it to his followers.

[u/Icy_Hunt_3847 → u/destakob]

It's almost like there are better ways to foster debate than to propose insane legislation.

[u/olmyapsennon → u/destakob]

Na he knows exactly what he's doing. He knows what he's referencing is rhetorical and meant to highlight the hypocrisy. But, he also knows his base is too dumb to realize that.

[u/Weekly_Direction1965 → u/KnowsAboutMath]

Ted knows but just like every fascist uses it to manipulate his followers.

[u/4-5Million → u/KnowsAboutMath]

People do these bills all of the time on both sides. They're gotcha bills for this purpose but they always end up making the conversation worse. A republican in Florida just did a bill for the same effect. Basically he said that since democrats want to tear down statues of slave owners and change the names of government buildings then any political party that defended slavery as a main point would have to be canceled and change their name.

Both of these are trying to point out some kind of hypocrisy but instead just fuel anger and disbelief from the other side because people say, "Wow, fascists want to ban the opposing party!" or "OMG! The authoritarians want to forcefully sterilize people!"

It's so counter productive. People can make fun of Ted Cruz all they want for falling for this but y'all let these same 'gotcha' bills fly over your head when it's from the other side and get mad about it thinking it's genuine.

[u/mdcd4u2c → u/4-5Million]

To be fair, it's gotten extremely hard to tell the difference between what is a real proposal and what is a "gotcha" bill from the GOP side much moreso than the Dems side. I mean, I take your point, but still.

[u/incriminating_words → u/mdcd4u2c]

Yeah I was going to say, in 2023, can you really be certain that a lawmaker in Florida is “just kidding” about banning a liberal party?

[u/IHateMath14 → u/KnowsAboutMath]

Hey you. You and me are opposites. Teach me math.

[u/KnowsAboutMath → u/IHateMath14]

Teach me math.

Which part?

[u/IHateMath14 → u/KnowsAboutMath]

Yk those functions where you distribute the x or y value (or values) into the equation.? Yeah that. I’m about to fail my algebra class.

[u/KnowsAboutMath → u/IHateMath14]

Do you mean the distributive law, i.e. when you do something like this

2(X + 3) = 2X + 6

?

[u/IHateMath14 → u/KnowsAboutMath]

It looks like this: [y = -2x + 2

[y = 7x + 11

The brackets should only be one bracket

[u/KnowsAboutMath → u/IHateMath14]

I'm not sure I follow. Are you talking about a pair of equations where you're trying to solve for the values of the two variables x and y?

[u/IHateMath14 → u/KnowsAboutMath]

Yes. This is algebra 1 btw.

[u/KnowsAboutMath → u/IHateMath14]

OK. So we have these two things:

y = -2x + 2
y = 7x + 11

y is a temporary label for some number we don't know the value of yet. x is also a temporary label for a number we don't know the value of yet. The two equations above are giving you two relationships between the unknown numbers x and y. For instance, the first one (y = -2x + 2) is saying "y (whatever it is) is the same number as -2 times x (whatever it is) plus 2."

Now, the most important rule of algebra is that when you have an equation, you can do anything you want to the equation as long as you do the same thing to both sides. For instance, I can add 2 to both sides of your first equation:

y       = -2x + 2
+2       +2
y + 2 = -2x + 4

That's allowed. I can't do different things to the two sides of an equation. For instance, I couldn't add 2 to one side and subtract 3 from the other. That's not allowed.

Here's an analogy I like to use when talking about algebra with my son: You know those balance scales, like this one? An equation is like a balance scale with some weights on one side and some weights on the other side which is perfectly in balance. As long as I do the same thing to both sides of the scale, it will stay in balance. For instance, I could add a 1 kilogram weight to each side. Or I could cut the amount of weight on each side in half. In both cases, the scale stays in balance.

Now, y = -2x + 2 is telling us that y and -2x + 2 are exactly the same number. Since they are the same, I can take your second equation y = 7x + 11 and replace the y with -2x + 2. Then I have:

-2x + 2 = 7x + 11

I want to get the x all by itself on one side of the equal sign by using the "balance scale rule" where I do the same thing to both sides. Let's start by subtracting 2 from both sides of the equal sign:

-2x + 2 = 7x + 11
    - 2       -2
-2x     = 7x + 9

Now we'll take 7x away from both sides of the equal sign:

-2x = 7x + 9
-7x      -7x
-9x = 9

Since we want to get x all by itself on the left side of the equal sign, the last step is to divide both sides by by -9. That leaves us with

x = 9/(-9) = -1

because 9/(-9) is the same number is -1. Lo and behold, we discovered that x is actually the number -1.

But what about y? We're also supposed to find what number y actually is. Luckily, we still have the original two relationships between x and y. That is, the two equations we started with. We can take either one of them (it doesn't matter which) and replace x with its true value of -1. That will tell us the value of y. Let's do it with the first equation we started with:

y = -2x + 2 = -2(-1) + 2 = 2 + 2 = 4

And we're done. We've determined that x is -1 and y is 4.

Does that answer what you're asking?

[u/IHateMath14 → u/KnowsAboutMath]

Yup. Thanks! Do you happen to be a teacher or do you just know that?

[u/Muted_Cod_9137]

Do they wear industrial strength blindfolds to make such statements or can I pick them up at tractor supply?

[u/SaffellBot → u/Muted_Cod_9137]

No, in fact the whole process works better the more hypocritical it is. In every way on every platform conservatives are telling you their words don't matter. Every time you take them at face value it's a win for them.

They hypocrisy is the point. It demonstrates that this is about making "us" powerful and taking power away from "them". It's virtue signalling, and that's all it is. Trying to interpret it as anything else just means you're less equipped to actually deal with fascist rhetoric.

[u/AlarmingAffect0 → u/SaffellBot]

The Card Says 'Moops'.

[u/abraxasisall → u/AlarmingAffect0]

I always like to watch that video in its entirety whenever it gets posted to remind myself of the nature of online discourse with people posting offensive or hateful comments. More often than not they’re just the convenient idiots described at the end of the video helping create exposure to the far right, and what they believe is ultimately erroneous anyways, as they have no loyalty to the truth, just a desire to own a lib. Using a rational argument is meaningless, they’re not engaging in an anonymous message board to have an actual rational discussion.

[u/scoopzthepoopz → u/AlarmingAffect0]

Good ol' alt-right playbook

[u/DucksEatFreeInSubway → u/SaffellBot]

I just don't believe, or really even listen to, anything they say any more. There's no reasonable modern day conservative position. They have no platform, no ideals, nothing to contribute to society.

[u/spluv1 → u/Muted_Cod_9137]

This is why fox news uses such abrasive fear tactics, to make it so viewers can only take this at face value with no capacity to think critically at all

[u/DaFlyingMagician]

The irony and outrage is lost on some people

[u/TheBeardedSingleMalt → u/DaFlyingMagician]

Not lost, just working as they designed

[u/erickoziol → u/TheBeardedSingleMalt]

Right. The reason you can't argue with this is that Ted is likely thinking "Well, if I was a woman I would deserve to have my right to abortion limited."
It's the "Would you want to be treated like Black people in America?" question. All white people would say no. But a depressing amount would be thinking "But if I was Black, of course I would deserve it."
It's all by design. We cannot win with "gotchas". There's no value in it.

[u/ChaoticChinchillas → u/erickoziol]

Judging from most of the racists I know, they don’t think if they were black they would deserve it. They think that black people are treated better and have it easier. You know, because they get scholarships and jobs because they’re black and the more deserving white guy didn’t get it, and you can’t be mean to black people because you aren’t allowed to hurt their feelings.

[u/Ok-Champ-5854 → u/ChaoticChinchillas]

It's alarming to me how many conservatives I've spoken to that will completely agree with you that black people get treated unfairly by police and that it's wrong and yet don't support BLM. Like...that's the entire point of BLM?

[u/DarkEnergy27 → u/Ok-Champ-5854]

I don't support the BLM as in the company that scammed thousands and made millions off of all the shit they did.

[u/Ok-Champ-5854 → u/DarkEnergy27]

I think 99% of protestors in the BLM movement would agree with you. It's a deliberate tactic to get you not to agree with the movement though. The organization is not the movement. Yet still people will use it as an excuse not to support the movement, which is/was just a civil rights movement.

[u/[deleted] → u/TheBeardedSingleMalt]

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[u/Ebwtrtw → u/[deleted]]

To be fair, he is of Canadian origin and a lot of us in the states would love to send him back.

[u/gayfrogscientologist → u/Ebwtrtw]

He's more a resident of Cancun than he is Canadian at this point.

[u/Umutuku → u/gayfrogscientologist]

He's a citizen of wherever the responsibility isn't.

[u/bunglejerry → u/Ebwtrtw]

When Canada sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people

[u/scrambledeggsalad → u/bunglejerry]

I see what you did there

[u/Boner_Elemental → u/Ebwtrtw]

That would probably start a war

[u/GeoffBAndrews → u/Ebwtrtw]

We ain’t taking him back. NO TAKE BACKSIES!!

[u/scrambledeggsalad → u/GeoffBAndrews]

We'll keep Beiber if you take Ted back.

[u/pm-me-racecars → u/Ebwtrtw]

What's the point of living next to a trash fire if you can't leave your trash?

[u/Ok-Champ-5854 → u/pm-me-racecars]

The smoke rolls your direction. See: anti-vaxx trucker protests and Canadian Trump supporters.

[u/spicyicecream → u/Ebwtrtw]

Nope, we don't want him back. Sorry, not sorry.

[u/Puzzleheaded-Grab736 → u/DaFlyingMagician]

Cool for Women, not cool for men. The hilarious semantics can just be left to play themselves out naturally.

[u/punkindle → u/DaFlyingMagician]

These things don't work, because people like Ted are too stupid to understand irony

[u/Iheardthatjokebefore → u/punkindle]

Not stupid. This is deliberate. We've passed the point where Hanlon's Razor is worth using. They want to restrict women's rights without restricting men's.

[u/E_Cayce → u/punkindle]

Ted is not stupid, he's evil. He even switches code and changes his accent when talking to different audiences.

[u/daisuke1639 → u/E_Cayce]

Code switching is not inherently malicious. Code switching is the fact that you talk to your grandma, doctor, and friends in different ways.

Code switching to express belonging to a group that you have negligible ties to, now that's manipulative.

[u/Amelaclya1 → u/E_Cayce]

Obama did this too. Not trying to "both sides" the debate or anything. Just pointing this out because code-switching isn't inherently manipulative or evil. Some people actually do it naturally and it's a very valuable skill, since we are inclined to like those that are more like us. I'm envious of people that can do this, because I'm the type that can live overseas for 7 years and not pick up even a hint of an accent, and only a little local slang. It makes it really hard to "fit in". Then there is my husband,who is amazing at code-switching. Does it with zero effort or even awareness and he's liked wherever he goes.

[u/[deleted] → u/punkindle]

Ted Cruz is actually a genius. Literally. Ivy league educated.

He just knows how stupid his voters are, which is why his tweets look like this. HE understands what the point of the bill was (an analogy to show government shouldn't be interfering in reproductive decisions), but he knows his idiot voters don't, so he tweeted that. That's the Republican party, Fox News, etc., in general. The people at the top mostly aren't stupid. They just know the average Republican voter is.

[u/hglman → u/punkindle]

It is malice, not stupidity.

[u/UmExcuseMeBish]

Wow. If only the government was small enough to let me own my own fucking body. That would be neat!

[u/Imfrom_m-83]

Are people like Ted Cruz actually this stupid? That they can’t see a half a step in front of their extremely flawed reasoning that they walk right into negating their own flawed reasoning in front of the world?

[u/tea_and_cream → u/Imfrom_m-83]

Yes. I just had a conservative Christian woman proclaim to me that the "bitter water" potion described in the chapter Numbers in the Bible, which effectively renders a medically-induced abortion, is not a "real" abortion because the women it was given to as a punishment for suspected adultery could no longer have children period, supposedly, and a "real" abortion doesn't 'do that.' 🤦🏻‍♀️ The mental gymnastics, I tell you...

[u/Imfrom_m-83 → u/tea_and_cream]

True. As a child, an adult tried to explain away dinosaurs by telling me they couldn’t fit on Noah’s Ark. I was 10; she was 42. I called her a retard and her friends laughed at her. These people haven’t changed a bit.

[u/IDontReadRepliez → u/tea_and_cream]

No. Ted Cruz sadly isn’t this stupid. He knows what he’s doing, and he’s fanning the flames intentionally.

[u/tea_and_cream → u/IDontReadRepliez]

You're right- I was more speaking of his supporters who buy this garbage blindly. My bad for not being clearer.

[u/BrtndrJackieDayona → u/Imfrom_m-83]

Everyone saying yes are the stupid ones. Ted Cruz isn't stupid. He's an evil asshole. His constituents are stupid. But he's not. It doesn't fucking matter if he contradicts himself. It doesn't matter if he's a giant fucking hypocrite. It. Doesn't. Matter. The people who vote for him don't know, don't care, and if told, would call it fake news and move on.

Quit being delusional. Senate republicans aren't stupid. Their voters are.

[u/SaffellBot → u/BrtndrJackieDayona]

Quit being delusional. Senate republicans aren't stupid. Their voters are.

As are the people that continue to take statements made by people like Cruz at face value. This thread is doing work for Cruz, it doesn't make him look bad. It provides the only thing Cruz really needs, liberals to be mad and confused.

Cruz got Roe v Wade repealed, stop thinking he's dumb.

[u/CuriousOdity12345 → u/SaffellBot]

The majority of them know exactly what they're doing. It's basically a science at this point.

[u/SaffellBot → u/CuriousOdity12345]

Interestingly the study of rhetoric is something scientists don't really like to do. Though I would agree, I suspect conservative think tanks are actually doing science on the subject. Especially through things like Cambridge analytica.

[u/shay-doe → u/Imfrom_m-83]

Ted does not see women as people. He sees them as property. This is why the thought never even crossed his mind when thinking about this statement. He would still justify his stance in that him and his followers believe God mad women purely for making babies and it is wrong to allow them to do anything so evil like not make babies.

[u/crazycatlady331 → u/Imfrom_m-83]

Ted Cruz is Ivy League educated (he went to Princeton then Harvard law school).

He's just an asshole.

[u/basch152 → u/Imfrom_m-83]

no, they aren't stupid.

they're grifters and they know their target audience will believe anything they say without fact checking as long as you say it while using it to attack democrats, immigrants, atheists, any religion other than christianity, LGBT, any minority group, or most women

[u/Efficient_Mix_9031 → u/Imfrom_m-83]

No, they carve out their own reality and live comfortably therein while people outside scream “by your logic” at the to zero affect

[u/Its_Beelzebozo_Time → u/Imfrom_m-83]

Yes.

[u/Deadlymonkey → u/Imfrom_m-83]

Yes. I know someone who's a huge GOP donor (Big enough to have various politicians at their house all the time) and they believed that the city they lived in had been destroyed by BLM because one of those politicians said so.

Like they legitimately believed everything was a crater except for the areas they were going to.

ninja edit: I learned this when I invited them to a restaurant near my house and they were confused because they thought there were no buildings standing.

[u/graymulligan → u/Imfrom_m-83]

Ted Cruz is brilliant. He's educated, well-spoken and knows exactly what his base wants to hear. Stupid isn't nearly as dangerous as evil.

[u/LurkLurkleton → u/Imfrom_m-83]

They don't talk about abortion as a private reproductive health choice but as the murder of innocent babies so there's no flaw in the reasoning to them.

[u/PerspectiveNew3375]

One side sees it as reproductive rights, the other sees it as murder. You're not going to ever see eye to eye with such a huge fundamental rift between belief systems.

[u/DudeBuddyGuyFriend → u/PerspectiveNew3375]

People don’t realize there’s no gotcha moment when they don’t realize this

[u/Radiant-Map8179 → u/PerspectiveNew3375]

And this is all by design. While the masses argue endlessy, the machine pushes on with it's plans...and around and around we go.

[u/2225ns]

Jesus... I thought our Dutch politicians were dumb fucks, but Ted creates a whole new level of stupidity..

[u/MemeTeamMarine → u/2225ns]

You should follow American republicans on Twitter. It's a truly mind boggling amount of stupidity

[u/AnewAccount98 → u/2225ns]

Not dumb at all. He doesn’t care, nor does it matter to is constituents. It only riles up their hatred of democrats even more, if anything. This is part of the game of politics, which is played much easier when you spend decades defunding the education of those same constituents.

[u/soggylittleshrimp → u/2225ns]

Unfortunately he is very smart. He knows what to say to get actual dumb people to hoot and holler, and get the people of TEXAS vote for a Canadian born Harvard and Princeton elitist.

[u/Telemere125 → u/2225ns]

They’re not dumb at all. They’re talking to the average voter, so they have to talk on their level. Hypocritical? Yes. Unethical? All day. But stupid? No, they are actually very in-tune with what gets their base riled up and are willing to say anything that keeps them in power.

It looks like an alcoholic three-ring circus fucked a shit-show any made a baby, but in reality it’s exactly what’s required to keep the ball rolling and their bank accounts securely in the black.

[u/Convenientjellybean]

How to prevent abortions: vasectomies for all males! Checkmate!

[u/TheBelhade → u/Convenientjellybean]

Mandatory vasectomies at puberty for all males, which is reversible upon marriage.

[u/Sl0ppy0tter]

r/SelfAwarewolves

[u/Fndmefndu]

I’m am not a fan of government meddling in places they don’t belong (ie, reproductive rights) but as a Tennessean, a state only slight less of a shit show, please let this pass. Because when I hear MAGAts bitching about it, I’m gonna remind them they had zero issue with legislating our female productive rights.

I got a lot of anger pent up and I need to squirt it at someone. Come on, Alabama, give me what I want!!

[u/HalfdeadMF → u/Fndmefndu]

squirt; could you elaborate?

just asking for a friend...

[u/Sl0ppy0tter]

Whoosh, Ted. Whoosh

[u/Akamesama → u/Sl0ppy0tter]

No, they totally get it. They just don't care. Republican don't care about Democrats calling them hypocrites. Doesn't seem to bother their base either.

[u/TazmanianTux → u/Sl0ppy0tter]

🤣🤣🤣 best comment.

[u/jchrisboynton]

Fuck Ted Cruz.

[u/jessassa → u/jchrisboynton]

My unfocused eyes read this as "fuck that cunt". Then they went into focus and it actually does say that. Lol

[u/peckerheadiam]

I got one after I found out my spouse was pregnant with our third… I agree lol

[u/FifeSymington]

While I agree 100%, these things never get to what the conservatives believe, which is that an aborted pregnancy is killing a person. It seems to me that a stronger bodily autonomy argument is needed for that. Otherwise, all these valid points will still just get met with eye rolls about the liberals not getting that they’re murdering people.

[u/ZachBuford]

Funny how the outrage starts when it affects men. It was all fun and games when taking rights from women.

[u/SaleenSundria9]

Vasectomies are reversible. Tubal ligation is not.

[u/Flowchart83 → u/SaleenSundria9]

Vasectomies, tubal ligations, pregnancies and abortions should not be up to a government. Men and women should have rights to their own bodies.

[u/docsquidly → u/SaleenSundria9]

They are not as reversible as people think. About 25% non-reversible after the first year and goes up from there.

[u/llama-impregnator]

This, class, is what we call a "false equivalency."

Doesn't matter what you believe, people on the right equate abortion with murder. So, pretending the right use the argument that abortion is wrong because it's a private decision is dishonest and lazy.

That's like pretending the left thinks guns are bad because it can harm others and the right going, "How about that! Bad people who have access to guns can hurt people. Boy, it'd be nice to have a way to prevent that!"

Left or right, doesn't matter. Debate honestly or gtfo.

[u/Ninjastahr → u/llama-impregnator]

Honestly this whole thread is infuriating to read, thank you for being the one sane person here apparently. We can't even begin to have a discussion if one side is discussing whether or not it's a life while the other is discussing reproductive rights. Nobody is even having an argument - people are just shouting into the void something that the other side thinks isn't the issue and then wondering why the "idiots" on whatever side they're against aren't listening to them.

[u/llama-impregnator → u/Ninjastahr]

Huh. I thought I'd be downvoted into oblivion.

Cheers.

[u/CorpseMarine → u/llama-impregnator]

I thought i was beginning to go crazy, I support the right for abortions but for the life of me I cannot understand people who make these arguments like it's all of a sudden going to persuade republicans to also support abortion.

It's just going to make them dig their heels in as the people who make these arguments will just come off as lunatics to them

[u/Tylers_Tacos_Top]

But before it was only happening to women, now that it’s happening to men it’s horrible! /s

[u/Yum-Yumby]

We've always said "introduce the same restrictions on men and watch how fast they defend a person's choice to their own body" and sure as shit here we are

[u/GingerKitty26]

Republicans: we demand the right to govern how woman deal with their bodies.

Also Republicans: the Government shouldn’t be allowed to regulate how men deal with their bodies, its unfair!

[u/EndurableOrmeedue]

Whoever edits dates out of tweets is a h****, your mum.

[u/redconvict]

This would be a sobering moment for logical and rational people but to republicans being able to yell "CHILD KILLER" is too effective of a policy that they will never drop it no matter what.

[u/[deleted]]

Tex Cruz isn’t playing a role, he’s just legitimately fucking stupid.

I have no doubt he was clever as a kid through school, but his brain has rotted

[u/ConsistentSports]

After 50? Aren't they just firing dust at that point?

[u/gooddudesclub777]

It's not ironic lol. They legit want as many babies pumped out as possible. They'd rather outlaw vasectomy than go along with this. They need as many poor babies as possible so they can get them to stop the slave..I mean worker shortage once they hit the ripe labor age of 11

[u/RandomlyJim]

Rolanda Hollis! I was involved in her campaign and knocked on doors for her!

She wrote this bill to point out the craziness of legislating control of women’s reproductive rights and healthcare choices by doing the same to men.

Republicans naturally lost their damn mind.

[u/DaFlyingMagician]

Imagine if by some fluke of biology there were women injecting eggs into a man's balls to impregnate them. Would men or these politicans really consider it "life" that must be protected?

[u/Reynolds_Live]

“A government that’s big enough to give you everything is big enough to take everything away from you”.

That’s quite the dumb logic coming from the man who wants small government yet also allow that government to take things from people he disagrees with.

[u/Mcboatface3sghost]

Can someone please give me an accurate answer on what maybe a stupid question but I legit don’t understand. Some of these people literally get dunked on every single time they open their mouths, do they not know that? Is it any publicity is good publicity? I just do or say jackass level things because it keeps me in the media? Ted Cruz may be a total asshole, but he is not stupid. Reddit- I beg you to break it down for me? What is the end result other than name recognition? I’m almost afraid of the answers…

[u/DeadStringScrolls]

Hilarious to see any politician claim they're advocates of small gov't.

[u/Pristine-Today4611]

Hell I’d say lower the age. More men do need vasectomies. These dead beat men who don’t take care of any kids. Hell yes they do.

[u/VoidGroceryStore]

I’m really tired of debating hypotheticals honestly. Real people are negatively impacted by this and will lose their lives to raging misogynistic pigs. All “mandatory vasectomy” bills don’t go anywhere and don’t work to showcase the problem.

They know the stories and the statistics. They just don’t fucking care.

[u/Situati0nist]

Hey, I've seen this one

[u/Rhoeri]

Laughing my ass off at all the victimized conservatives crying about “false equivalency” while simultaneously missing the point of the entire argument.

You couldn’t script ignorance of this magnitude.

[u/Finklesfudge]

Isn't it sort of embarrassing to consider it a 'clevercomeback' when he shows a total misunderstanding of the argument he purports to be 'coming back' at?

[u/nutwrecker1986]

Oh so now men are mad that they are told what to do with their bodies….ohhh…nooo……….

[u/Quercusagrifloria]

It is not like cancun's wife will let him bed her a third time. Even she must have standards, so speaking.

[u/Andreus]

Why isn't Ted Cruz in federal prison?

[u/idiots_r_taking_over]

The thickness of Ted Cruz’s skull is incredible and should be studied

[u/zonda747]

I do not like that man Ted Cruz…

[u/DragonTamerNY]

Shit, I'm 30 with 2 kids and got one last year. Best decision I've ever made. I highly recommend it

[u/larsnead]

I believe that went right over lil Ted's head 🤣🤣🤣

[u/jimmyjone]

A dick is all he's got? Sounds right.

[u/aikahiboy]

I know Ted Cruz is not a reliable source so what is a truly happening and what’s the reason

[u/IamTheWalrus001]

Ted fucking Cruz…I dry heave every time I see that asshole’s rat face.

[u/buttamilkbizkits]

OMG, the fucking irony.

[u/Samsun20]

r/selfawarewolves

[u/pard0nm3]

Sometimes they slip out of character

[u/Jgabes625]

I mean they are against birth control so it’s not hypocritical in my opinion. Now if he was ok with vasectomies at all then that would be hypocritical.

[u/Thirteen26]

Ha! Jokes them. Got mine at 38 😎

[u/Gantz-man91]

Nah. Nobody should be forced to have medical procedures or barred from having medical procedures. Stop making laws based on the feelings of some. The way you live your life and what medical things you do has no effect in other people

[u/Mista_Cash_Ew]

Ngl if it's free I'd take a vasectomy. I don't even want kids right now I really doubt I'll want them at 50 when I'll be getting too old to be having kids. And if a condom fails 3 times, I'll be glad to not have to worry about a 4th time

[u/alilbleedingisnormal]

Ted Cruz went to an Ivy League school, y'all. This just goes to show what that actually means in regards to people's intelligence.

[u/ComfortablePlant829]

I support mandatory vasectomies for real.

[u/ripper4444]

I already got one. Will I be reimbursed?

[u/Ok_Equipment_5895]

Is Ted Cruz - Ivy League education- this fuckin stupid? If I went to Yale I’d be asking for a discount cuz he’s discounting that whole experience.

[u/herewegoagaincrynow]

Finally they realize they shouldn’t fucking control peoples bodies. No surprise men don’t want their balls controlled just like women don’t want their uteruses controlled.

[u/Tactifud]

Apple don’t taste too good does it Cancun Cruz?

[u/Toes14]

Ted got set up!

[u/juanjing]

Getting someone like Ted Cruz to admit something like that publicly would be about the only reason to propose a troll bill like that.

I think Teddy feel for it hook, line, and sinker

[u/Karthikgurumurthy]

They aren't dumb enuf to not see the massive irony here. They are just plain psychopaths.

[u/Capable_Ad1313]

That is a great idea! Men that old are too old to be having more children & those who have 3 do not need more. Hopefully this gets through. Personally I got fixed at 31 with only one child because I knew I did not want another. Preventing the conception is the ultimate goal. Prior to that it is not a baby.

[u/daikatana]

Cruz just walked right into that one, full face print on window pane. What a moron.

[u/nenulenu]

Wait. Isn’t god also powerful enough to give and take everything? Is Ted Cruz saying that we should abolish… God?

[u/kingpatzer]

Way to miss the entire point of the bill :)

[u/OpeningOnion7248]

No cojones for Rafael

[u/mousebert]

Sounds pretty great to me. Where do I vote for this?

[u/HonestCup20]

I agree. 3 kids is enough production from one dude. and yes no dude should be having kids after 50.. so i agree with this. hell i got my V done when i was 32 and after my second kid.. so i'm ahead of the curve.

[u/DeepSeaHobbit]

Let's be clear that a government that gives you nothing can also take everything.

[u/C137_James]

Bro, you're wasting your text data. Not sure Ted Cruz is smart enough to realize the point your making

[u/Mcdibbles]

Ted Cruz isn't stupid. He's Harvard educated. He knows the bill is meant to prove a point.

His followers on Twitter are stupid, and he knows it.

[u/Rhoeri]

Ted Cruz isn’t even remotely smart enough to understand how fucking stupid he is.

[u/sex-with-sofas]

Actually, I think with how overpopulated the world is, it’ll be good to have it controlled

[u/[deleted]]

That’s actually not all that bad a proposal

[u/Apersonaloutlet]

I don't understand why republicans aren't fighting like hell for mandatory infant vasectomies. Reverse them when you want kids. It would sure as hell cut down on abortion rates.

[u/Whole_Suit_1591]

How about kids born out of wedlock get to go to Ted's and live since he has the best ideas and a bunch of money.

[u/Firm_Transportation3]

Perhaps we should just mandate that all Alabama males get vasectomies.

[u/mermaidwithcats]

Yes yes yes! Snip the bastards!

[u/InwardXenon]

"Only when it affects ME!"

[u/Brognar72]

Oh my god! This is such a slick idea! Try to get this passed in government, the Republicans will shoot it down by law. In doing so, they would have to legalize abortion.

[u/Exo-Shvdow]

50? fuck that. make it 30 instead.

[u/Dankbradley]

Well it’s good to see my body my choice is back

[u/DasMajorFish]

I would not really mind a bill like that. Too many stupid people are having upwards of 9 kids and are unable to pay for them. These kids end up getting abused, kidnapped, and all around spreading misery. I know it’s kinda mean to say, but they are probably better off not being born

[u/Gavindy_]

Haha it’s a little different when it’s our rights being taken away huh? Seems almost personal

[u/NewMexicoStranger]

So….a lot of 50+ year old men are having sex with 20 year old women in Alabama?

[u/0_gravity_sandcastle]

Educate the people to not be fooled by taking sarcasm and rhetorical devices literally.

[u/RockIsRx]

He threatened? Aha, I bet he’s almost 50 or something 😂

[u/Sqweed69]

Does any right winger even notice they're arguing against the authoritarian left most of the time? The part of the left that is the closest to right wing authoritarian ideology.

Like they always blab about Stalin and shit to dunk on socialism and communism. While the USSR actually was state capitalism

[u/Avengelina1021]

Crazy thing is that bill makes sense to me. I knew a man who was 76 with a 5 year old and 7 year old. Now poor things are 14-15 with no father and financial problems.

[u/Serious_XM]

No they shouldn’t. If someone wants to cut off their own arm, no one cares. No one is arguing about that.

[u/TroyandAbed304]

Thats a knee slapper.

[u/IbanezGuitars4me]

They make women get their tubes tied after three kids here in certain situations. Why not men? Why not MEN?

[u/tbfranca1]

I thought abortion laws was to protect the life of the baby?

[u/TotallyFunCoolGuy]

I think more accurately, and we can all agree, the government should not be in the business of forcibly sterilizing The People.

[u/Historical_Tea2022]

One is about refusal of a procedure and the other is about a forced procedure. It was a decent try but it's not comparable.