r/canada 9d ago Silver 1 Wholesome 2 Helpful 3 Facepalm 1

Canada to ban handgun imports

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/08/05/canada-handgun-import-ban/
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u/frostedmooseantlers 9d ago

“In May, a Yorkshire terrier named Pepper thwarted an attempt to smuggle 11 handguns across the border from Michigan to Ontario using a six-rotor drone.”

The truly amazing story here is how the CBSA managed to train that terrier to operate a six-rotor drone.

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u/RabidGuineaPig007 9d ago

Didn't Ricky, Julien and Bubbles try to smuggle dope across the border in a model train? Not rocket appliances.

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u/Benocrates Canada 9d ago

Swayze express ma'fucka

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u/FecalHeiroglyphics 9d ago

Swayze Train’s coming with us, gentlemen

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u/Benocrates Canada 9d ago

Hot hamburg sandwiches means pull the fuck over

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u/Yardsale420 9d ago

Hey Cock-a-doodle fuck and Ketchup Chip, get in the fucking car!

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u/northcrunk 9d ago

Peanut butter and jaaaaaaammm

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u/El_Cactus_Loco 9d ago

Swayze Airlines now boys, holy fuck!!

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u/treemoustache 9d ago

It was actually quite easy because Pepper was already well versed in operating a four-rotor drone.

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u/tibbymat Alberta 9d ago

The amazing story is how this editor still has their job.

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u/DoYouMindIfIAsk_ 9d ago

me trying to verify what you guys are saying but stuck behind a paywall.

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u/Wafflesorbust 9d ago Helpful

Ctrl Shift I, Ctrl Shift P, type in "disable Javascript", hit enter on the autocomplete suggestion, reload the page. Doing that will get you past 95% of paywalls/adblock popups.

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u/DoYouMindIfIAsk_ 9d ago

that's a great tip but ironically it's not working on this one.

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u/Wafflesorbust 9d ago edited 9d ago

Ah, I didn't actually check out the article myself, so that's my bad for not verifying it here haha.

Edit: Hm, it did seem to work for me here. I guess it's worth adding I think you'll have to leave the browser console open until you refresh the page, as debugger commands like that only work while it's open.

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u/Chancoop British Columbia 9d ago edited 9d ago

The thing I find often works (and it does here too) is just hitting refresh and manually pressing the X to stop the page from finishing loading. Some elements of the page will be blank but the text is fully available.

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u/Remote-End-2731 9d ago Silver

If you’re using an iPhone you can press the “Aa” button in the top right corner and then press on “Show Reader” and no more paywall!

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u/tlovr 9d ago

This mother fucker iPhones.. you are doing gods work, thank you.

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u/chemicalxv Manitoba 9d ago

They're just being dumb over the wording in the article. It comes across as funny but it's clear what they meant.

This was the incident being referred to. Some guys tried to smuggle handguns into Canada using a drone, but some guy's dog needed to pee at 4 am so they were foiled.

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u/Bloodyfinger 9d ago

Bold of you to assume there's an editor.

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u/TheSlav87 Ontario 9d ago

Wait, wtf lol? Was the person that wrote this high AF or what? 🤣

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u/jameskchou 9d ago

What is being done to stop gun smuggling across the border?

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u/FatWreckords 9d ago

Plant more trees to catch drones

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u/TengoMucho 9d ago

The trees have done more to stop gun crime than the Trudeau government.

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u/Mystaes 9d ago

But wait, isn’t the trudeau government is planting 1 billion trees?

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u/xizrtilhh Lest We Forget 9d ago

They'll get right on that as soon as the work on electoral reform is finished.

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u/GreatChampionship138 9d ago

And I believe that's on the list right after making housing affordable and shutting down the money-laundering schemes.

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u/SafetyChicken7 9d ago Helpful

I think that completely stopping gun smuggling is an unrealistic goal. Instead it would be nice to see the motivation for people to commit crimes be reduced as much as possible and that starts with investing money and effort into poorer communities where gun violence occurs. Restriction on law abiding responsible firearms license holders won’t do anything to reduce gun violence as the vast majority is done by criminals that illegal obtain handguns that would probably already be prohibited under our gun regulations for being short barrelled or hand large capacity magazines. I think things like police reform to have better trained officers, a prison system that focused more on rehabilitation and reintegration, and better social services to insure that poorer Canadians get the same opportunities as everyone else would hugely reduced not only gun violence but overall crime.

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u/Crafty-Ad-9048 8d ago

Stoping gang violence is also a hard goal to achieve. Gang violence gets passed on through generations similar to race and culture conflicts. We have 2000’s babies killing other 2000’s babies over conflicts that started in the 90’s.

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u/HanzG 9d ago

Canadian handgun owner here and you're exactly right. Consider this; how many criminals are arrested with legally imported handguns? And how many are smuggled?

Longest border in the world with massive gaps in security. Catch and release program for armed drug dealers. The fix isn't taking away the guns. Its by eliminating the desire to do harm in the first place.

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u/SafetyChicken7 9d ago

As a handgun gun owner myself, no criminal is going to go through the bureaucracy required to get a handgun.

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u/StickyRickyLickyLots Alberta 8d ago

Well, certainly not anymore they aren't.

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u/beerbaron105 8d ago

They never did, and never planned to

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

What is being done to stop gun smuggling across the border?

Why target that when they go for the low hanging fruit?

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u/TysonGoesOutside Alberta 9d ago

Literally nothing. If it keeps happening they can use it as an excuse for more gun control which is a wedge issue they love to hammer. Most people know little about guns or where crime guns come from so a politician throwing out random bans sounds pretty good to them.

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u/greendoh 9d ago

Obviously this ban on legal handgun imports! That'll fix it!

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u/__Happy 9d ago

Man, they should really ban illegal handgun imports too /s

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u/justafoolgettinby 9d ago Silver Take My Energy

laughs in indigenous reserves on the border that nobody wants to talk about

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u/SobeysBags 9d ago

Aroostook golf and country club. One giant hole in the border

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u/chewwydraper 9d ago

I get that the Canadian government is too terrified to do anything about these holes in the border, but it shocks me that the American government is cool with it.

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u/Hatsee 9d ago

It's not like we're smuggling guns there or anything.

Why would they care?

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u/chewwydraper 9d ago

They may not care about guns, but the American's certainly care about drugs.

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u/gotdamnn 9d ago

Aren’t most of the drugs coming into Canada? I know we export a lot of weed to the US though.

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u/3tiwn 9d ago

MDMA & Meth are also huge exports

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u/No-Wonder1139 9d ago

Americans literally smuggle drugs into their own country as a means of funding their own government agencies. I don't think they care.

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u/northcrunk 9d ago

CIA enters the chat

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u/SobeysBags 9d ago

If they did anything about the golf club, which is in Canada, it would put the course out of business, which would open up a whole new can of worms, and people would claim the govt is anti-business and stomping on the little guy, as the only way to access it is by the American side. It is one of the few place Americans can technically enter Canada with no passport or customs check. I myself went up there (I'm Canadian), and it was so weird just hopping back and forth between countries, play a round of golf in Canada, then go back to your car in the USA. All perfectly legal.

To be fair though as far as "friendly borders' go , the USA/Canada border is super strict and well patrolled, almost to a fault. My father in law in northern Maine was hiking through the back woods and accidentally crossed into Canada, than back into the USA, literally the middle of nowhere. 20 minutes later American border patrol showed up in ATV's asking about his movements and gave him a warning. He was very lucky they didn't take him in. They actually have motion sensors and cameras in the middle of the woods on both sides of the border. The money spent by the US border patrol and CBSA is pretty bananas.

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u/Anthrex Québec 9d ago

plus the American government loves smuggling guns across their borders

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal

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u/PartyClock 9d ago

Wouldn't matter anyways most of it comes in through Windsor and Niagara Falls via Hell's Angels but the cops tend to leave them alone.

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u/justafoolgettinby 9d ago

They all work together

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u/PartyClock 9d ago

The cops and the gangs? Yeah I'm aware.

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u/mavric_ac 9d ago

indigenous reserves on the border that nobody wa

Cornwall Island!

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u/Mrkillz4c00kiez Ontario 9d ago

not just guns going through that border lol

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u/Ok-Dragonfruit-1793 British Columbia 9d ago edited 9d ago

You mean like the New York couple, kidnapped and held for ransom after being smuggled into Canada ?

The couple kidnapped from a small town in New York state and smuggled into Quebec last week were held for ransom because drug traffickers in Canada mistakenly believed their grandson still had 50 kilograms of cocaine that were seized in a drug bust a week earlier, according to the FBI.

 

“This would have placed (the victim’s) cellphone in Snye, Quebec, Canada, an area on the Canadian side of the Akwesasne Mohawk reservation,” wrote Tamara Deming, the FBI agent who prepared the affidavit.

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u/The_Gooch09 9d ago

That was a crazy story to read!

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u/mavric_ac 9d ago

e victim’s) cellphone in Snye, Quebec, Canada, an area on the Canadian side of the Akwesasne Mohawk reservation,” wrote Tamara Deming, the FBI

Damn didn't hear about this, i don't live in the area anymore but the stories i remember from high school where crazy

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u/Mrkillz4c00kiez Ontario 9d ago

Same the amount of times class mates offered me jobs. To help them

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u/Ok-Dragonfruit-1793 British Columbia 9d ago

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u/Mrkillz4c00kiez Ontario 9d ago

This was biking cigarette across the old steel giant seaway bridge. If I remember correctly it was 40 a trip no way in hell was I risking that especially on a bridge that high

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u/_bicycle_repair_man_ 9d ago

Had no clue drive through tobacco was a thing.

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u/mavric_ac 9d ago

Just about anything you can imagine! Lol

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u/hindey19 9d ago

I took my firearms course with a few people from Cornwall Island, and the stuff they openly shared...it's amazing they're not in jail.

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u/Fiber_Optikz 9d ago

Nobody in Parliament that is

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u/justfollowingorders1 9d ago

This.

Nobody wants to open that can of worms. So we just let illegal hand guns flow into our cities.

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u/[deleted] 9d ago edited 9d ago

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u/Incognimoo 9d ago

Yet the reserves have been asking for support to stop it, but have received none.

This is how we know that the federal agenda is vote-driven, not safety.

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u/sleipnir45 9d ago

"The regulatory measure announced Friday allows the government to impose that freeze without waiting for Parliament, which is on a summer break until September, to pass that legislation."

No parliament, no problem ! Just use an OIC

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u/Cent1234 9d ago

"Canada to fast track not addressing gun crime."

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u/BubahotepLives 9d ago

Trudeau has used more IOCs than any government before. Strange that he once called their use unconstitutional yet he loves to use them.

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u/SnakesInYerPants 9d ago Take My Energy

He also ran his first election on reforming our election system, then won his second election with near the least amount of votes any of our PMs have won on while all his friends boasted about his “brilliant strategic campaigning”. I have nothing against the liberal party as a whole but I sure am getting tired of watching everyone justify his corruption and hypocrisy with “but he’s doing it for the better good!”

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u/Mystaes 9d ago

Until the liberals or conservatives change the voting process I don’t want to hear from either of them how unfair it is when they lose under our terrible system

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u/Void_Bastard Canada 9d ago

Agreed.

But I do reserve the right to shit on any and all parties who make the promise but do not follow through on it. No matter what colour tie they wear.

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u/lNeverZl 9d ago

Rule for thee not for me.

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u/Potential-Brain7735 9d ago

What the fuck even is the point of parliament at this point?

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u/Dionysos53 9d ago

Ahhh canada. Where the lack of democracy is applaud by people

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u/TysonGoesOutside Alberta 9d ago

I love the people that support this. I cant wait for the people they hate the most to use these tools to do the thing they fear most.

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u/adaminc Canada 9d ago

These tools have existed and been used in every single government since Canada started. It's how regulations are made, all of them. So guaranteed that anyone older than 18, has seen regulations made that they would hate or fear being made.

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u/bcbuddy 9d ago

Yesterday Mendicino was talking about "cross border gun smuggling"

And today, he announced measures that have no effect on cross border gun smuggling.

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u/Rocko604 British Columbia 9d ago

Par for the course for that muppet.

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u/Thecodo 9d ago

For the party

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u/lowertechnology 9d ago

As long as it looks like we are doing something, the sheep will continue to graze

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u/cmdrDROC Verified 9d ago

I work in bails and we just granted a bunch of gang members bail who were bringing fentanyl from the US to the Ottawa valley.

They also had loaded handguns with serials removed.

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u/jmmmmj 9d ago Gold Helpful Take My Energy Starry

Canada to ban importing handguns through a legal process. Illegal imports remain unaffected.

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u/enviropsych 9d ago

Funny how being next door neighbors with a country that has 400 million guns tends to lead to guns from that country being illegally smuggled here. Odd. Never would have expected.

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u/Angriestbeaverever 9d ago

This comment right here, says everything about what the government is doing about the “gun problem” in Canada.

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u/jamie1414 9d ago

What else are they going to do? Make them super-illegal? Extra-illegal?

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u/Pandaman922 9d ago

Literally anything but go after legal guns. Every article like this always references an entirely unrelated case of smuggling that we know won’t be fixed with whatever vote buying measure they’re throwing to the media today.

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u/haysoos2 9d ago

Enforcing border crossings even where First Nations straddle the US/Canada border would be a huge start, but politically the Liberals won't even discuss the matter.

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u/ScoobyDone British Columbia 9d ago

Liberals? I can't recall any party tackling this.

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u/SilverwingedOther Québec 9d ago

THIS.

Anyone thinking that there's a political party in Canada that would get involved in overriding native rights...

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u/TerenceOverbaby 9d ago

What are you talking about. The Liberals purchased the Trans Mountain Pipeline in part to navigate its expansion against significant, although not unanimous, Indigenous opposition. The BC NDP supported the RCMP's enforcement of the injunction against the Wet'suwet'en land defenders so Costal Gas Link could proceed with building their pipeline.

Indigenous rights are constantly being challenged and negotiated by political parties.

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u/ILoveThisPlace 9d ago

Build a boarder crossing around the reserve if need be

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u/anotherdumbname82 9d ago

Reducing sentencing for violent gun-crime is essentially making it less illegal. Maybe they could start by not doing that.

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u/otto3210 Ontario 9d ago

Take that, restricted firearms licence owners who have completed CRFSC with extensive background checks and character reference interviews!

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u/Atabyrius 9d ago Helpful

Even legally owned handguns are not allowed outside the home/range except under very specific circumstances, and even then under trigger lock.

Any gun someone is caught with in their waistband on the street or in a glovebox is already illegal under current laws.

I have an RPAL, and shoot pistol/handguns pretty regularly with a local club. To even have the ability to purchase or shoot pistols in Canada, you need to get a normal PAL, then an RPAL, and maintain an expensive membership to a range that allows pistols (often a normal range with an expensive additional membership on top to shoot pistol).

Restricted firearms (which all pistols in Canada currently are) can only be used and operated at private ranges, are not even allowed to be transported except under very strict conditions (basically to/from your home to a range). To move it anywhere else you need to alert the local police first. They must be locked at all times, all ammunition must be locked up, and you consent for the RCMP to be able to search your residence at any time.

All this to say that Canadians that currently legally buy and shoot handguns for sport already spend thousands of dollars and jump through numerous hoops to enjoy their pastime. No criminal is acquiring guns through this process; it’s honestly easier to acquire them illegally, which is what most criminals do anyways. This is a posturing move by the liberals to appeal to their base, and punishes citizens who already worked hard to stay within the bounds of the law.

This is besides the fact that Trudeau already moved a bunch of firearms from the non-restricted and restricted classes to the prohibited class nearly overnight. This made it so that thousands of weapons can’t be sold or retained legally, so now people are left with weapons that were worth thousands of dollars, that are now illegal paperweights that they can’t move, as Trudeau didn’t equip sufficient funds for a buyback program. What will happen to these guns? They will nearly 100% be retained illegally and most with probably get sold off illegally.

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u/northcrunk 8d ago

What's a hand gun now? $800-$1000 for a legal one. Criminals are paying $3500 for one because they don't want to be traced. Anyone going through the legal process is not a threat at all. They can't even carry their firearms for self-defense.

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u/Patsboy101 9d ago edited 5d ago

Getting either your PAL or your RPAL is a time consuming process that comes with the fact that you are subject to background checks by RCMP 24/7. Adding to that, every weapon that is restricted must be registered with the government. Anybody that hold these licenses are going to be on their best behavior because they don’t want to lose their collection of firearms.

Cracking down on the legal ownership of handguns does nothing to deter criminals from smuggling guns into Canada because criminals do not care about the law. Only law-abiding citizens care because they don’t want to become criminals.

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u/leadfoot71 9d ago

I've been waiting for 7 months to even hear anything back about my PAL+RPAL application. Its an absulutly brutally long wait, still no license, but they've already charged me the fees.

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u/LifeLister902 9d ago

The point of getting your RPAL now is to own the non restricted guns that they will reclassify as restricted

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u/Subculture1000 9d ago

But I lost all those!... Or sold them... Or whatever.

<insert boating accident>

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u/Atabyrius 9d ago

Exactly, lots of boating accidents, cash sales to someone who’s name I forgot, or just lost in the woods firearms will be coming soon.

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u/Benmenyo 9d ago

I completed my RPAL 3 months ago and applied for permit after that. I'll be suing the federal government as I literally just got scammed by it. It' like doing your driver's license course and then making cars illegal to buy before you get one...

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u/Decent-Box5009 9d ago

So I only ask why we are banning handguns? What is the goal? I don’t own a hand gun, I don’t intend to own a hand gun, I have my restricted licence only because I wanted to keep the option open. I am a hunter with only bolt action rifles. But what is the goal of the hand gun ban? I’m pretty sure most crimes being committed in Canada are not happening with registered hand guns or stolen registered hand guns.

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u/wilburyan 8d ago

The goal is to appeal to metropolitan voters who hear about drive by shootings on a regular basis.

"But... Those aren't legal guns"

We know... But most regular folks don't.

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u/TomaszRS 9d ago

What’s the point of parliament if the Government just goes the OIC route whenever they don’t want to be challenged?

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u/Fidget11 Alberta 9d ago

Because they can’t use an OIC for everything, but gun laws here are set up in such a way as to allow them using an OIC to get their way.

Also even if it went to parliament, between the liberals and the NDP/BLOC there would easily be enough votes to do what they are doing with the OIC so it’s irrelevant.

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u/TomaszRS 9d ago

Then why not follow due process if the “OIC is irrelevant”?

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u/northcrunk 8d ago

Then do it. Going around parliament is undemocratic and authoritarian. I hated it when Harper did it and I'll hate it when Trudeau does it

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u/ExamArtistic6736 8d ago

Legal gun owners love Canada and Canadians. We are hunters and sports shooters. Yes, it’s a bit of a “dangerous hobby” (putting an explosive powder in a metal tube and lighting it) but so is archery, skydiving and BMX.

We are politically and racially diverse and we love it when non shooters show an interest in learning about guns. We have no ill intention towards anyone and as a brown immigrant, some of the most welcoming people I’ve met were white-as-snow boomers at a shooting range (I also saw and got to talk to an First Nations member for the first time as a new Canadian at a gun range). I’ve truly learnt so much about non-gun stuff from gun owners.

I bought a gun because as a kid I thought guns in video games were cool, the same reason why some who loved racing games buys a fast car, or a kid who watches Tony Hawk buys a skateboard.

All this law does is hurt civilians who own handguns legally to shoot for sport. Gun crime will continue to rise but the politicians will claim it to be an outlier “because we banned guns”.

Don’t let politicians fool you into thinking they’re banning guns for the people. They’re doing it so they have something to brag about during election season. Low income neighbourhoods will still see gun violence and profiling. Politicians will continue to ignore those that need rehabilitation. Besides, handguns are the least of our concerns. SO MANY CANADIANS are living paycheque to paycheque due to rising costs.

This is the time and the perfect reason for Canadians to unite, regardless of political affiliation, to get a government that works for us, not the other way around.

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u/BigNickDipples Verified 9d ago Starry

85% of all handgun related crimes in Canada are directed tied to illegally smuggled firearms, meaning this ban will not affect 85% of handgun related crime in Canada.

Tomorrow, when there is yet another shooting in Toronto or Montreal or Vancouver, this ban will not have prevented it, nor the shooting after that, nor the shooting after that.

Justin Trudeau knows this. He was told this by Canadian police chiefs and his own government report YEARS AGO. He doesn't care. Because it's not about making Canadians safer. It's about buying votes. That is all liberal gun policies are ever about.

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u/vARROWHEAD 9d ago

to be clear, the other 15% are NOT traced to Canada. But merely untraceable or simply not traced; given the trend the other 15% are likely smuggled as well.

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u/N2KD 9d ago

Why would not going after illegally smuggled firearms not buy even more votes?

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u/BigNickDipples Verified 9d ago

Because it's harder.

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u/paolo5555 9d ago

Ding Ding Ding Ding !

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u/ZJC2000 9d ago

And something something disproportionately affects minorities something something most vulnerable something.

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u/yoda7326 9d ago

Because if they actually solved the problem, they couldn't keep continually campaigning on it and using it as a wedge issue against the cons.

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u/Fr0st333 9d ago

That would require effort

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u/MooseGoose2020 9d ago

Because going after smuggled guns requires time and money; we won't see results until years later. These gun-control measures are a quick and easy "solution". The government wants us to think they're on-the-ball. A few days after a shooting, the Public Safety Minister can announce new measures to help against gun violence. Sadly, these measures are not very effective and people will continue dying until the government does something effective about it.

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u/tibbymat Alberta 9d ago

Not doubting your numbers here at all but can I ask for a source. I would just like to read the data on this for clarity.

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u/BigNickDipples Verified 9d ago Silver

https://twitter.com/RemoCan62/status/1517471577427922944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Police chiefs estimate about 14% of the remaining 15% cannot be sourced / tracked, but believe strongly they are USA-sourced.

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u/FSMmike 9d ago

Put people in jail appropriately that commit the crimes. Judges are not doing their job

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u/greendoh 9d ago

Look - those people are the victims. They didn't want to go out and buy the guns, they didn't want to even shoot them - the gun forced it upon them.

Criminals that use guns in crime = poor victims needing our sympathy

Guns = Evil killing machines that force poor criminals to commit heinous acts

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u/mantheman12 9d ago

As if banning something will stop people from doing it. Look at the war on drugs, see how well that turned out? Hmm who would've thought telling a criminal not to commit a crime will not work as anticipated? Even if they put more effort into cracking down on the trade. All that'll do is lower the supply, and raise the demand, thus causing the price to inflate massively. Soon it'll become a high price, high status luxury commodity. Which will make the trade even easier for illegal traders to make money, and even more desirable for impoverished and hungry people to get into the weapons trade.

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u/DistinctMembership49 8d ago

You can just buy one at your local high school for $100. Why bother importing ?

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u/DarrylRu 9d ago

Will do very little to slow down gun crimes in Canada which are mostly all committed with illegal guns. It will likely even increase gun smuggling.

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u/AceAxos Lest We Forget 9d ago

Don’t talk about the Border problem, nono

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u/Dull_Sundae9710 9d ago

Have we tried building a wall and making the Americans pay for it?

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u/MrRogersAE 9d ago

Explain how it would increase smuggling. Law abiding citizens don’t buy illegal guns. Legal guns almost never make their way to criminals, illegal guns almost exclusively come across the border and aren’t domestically sourced.

Any legal gun owner who who buy an illegal gun is a criminal, and is exactly the type of person that shouldn’t be allowed to own guns at all

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u/SnooChipmunks6697 9d ago Take My Energy

Fifty bucks says 2023 is the worst year for handgun violence in Canadian history.

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u/TheMikeDee 9d ago

I'll take you up on that. $50 CAD. Winner will be determined by official numbers from the same official source so that they're comparable. We meet again in January 2024.

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u/CasualCocaine 9d ago

Witnessed

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

I’m here to see this again.

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u/cos2 9d ago

Second the witness

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u/CringelordCameron 9d ago

In 2024 $50 might be able to get you a bag of chips!

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u/TheMikeDee 9d ago

It'll pay for a new starter home in downtown Vancouver!

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u/dannysmackdown 9d ago

Eh, $50 seems not enough for a tarp.

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u/TomaszRS 9d ago

Is that $50 gonna be adjusted for inflation?

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u/TheMikeDee 9d ago

Good point! It'll be 2024 $50. Cause, like, I didn't sign up for a $2,000 bet. :P

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u/SnooChipmunks6697 9d ago

Sounds good.

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u/CasualBoi247 9d ago

You really think the dude above has $50?

Probably over-leveraged to shit on his FULLY LOADED F150

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u/TheMikeDee 9d ago

RemindMe! January 5th, 2024

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u/Testing_things_out 9d ago

!Remindme January 5th 2024

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u/TOMapleLaughs Canada 9d ago

"Canada to have massive boost in handgun sales imminently."

-Washington Post

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u/_Connor 9d ago edited 9d ago

Handguns in Canada have been perpetually sold out since the transfer freeze was announced in May. We sold 60,000 handguns in the week following the announcement which is more than we typically sell in an entire year.

Every shipment that gun shops were receiving have been selling out almost instantly for the last 3 months, which is why we now have an import ban. Guess papa Trudeau wasn’t smart enough to see that a pending transfer freeze would increase sales, so now he’s banning imports so there’s no more inventory to sell even before the transfer freeze comes into effect.

I know someone who already has 1 handgun on the way who just bought 2 more this morning after the announcement.

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u/theziess 9d ago

Gun store near me had a gold plated desert eagle for sale for years. It’s was absurdly expensive, like 7 or 8 thousand dollars. The day after the handgun ban was announced it was sold. People spent outrageous amounts of money at the drop of a hat the day that ban was announced.

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u/toxic0n 9d ago

You're right. I bought a revolver after the transfer freeze news. Looks like I'm going shopping again. Thanks, JT.

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u/ChuckProuse69 9d ago

“Canada to have another massive boost in handgun sales imminently”.

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u/TOMapleLaughs Canada 9d ago

"As is tradition."

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u/WhyalwaysSSDD 9d ago edited 9d ago

Canada to ban legal handgun imports. Illegal handguns will still flow freely through the border with no attempt to address that.

Edit: i guess they had to do that since everyhand gun available for purchase at the initial annoucement has been sold along with whatever else has been imported since then. Likely 3x the number of handguns sold in the past couple months as were sold in the past couple years.

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u/Secas_1 9d ago

That rifle on the wall of the labourer’s cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.

— George Orwell

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u/smoke2muchkush 8d ago

They're still going to get imported through the rez.

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u/DannyBoy6672 8d ago

Won't do a fucking thing to prevent gun violence, gangsters will continue to shoot one another with smuggled guns and honestly who cares

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u/Drexl92 8d ago

Trudeau virtue signaling to the highest degree.

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u/specious_foofaraw 9d ago

Only criminals can have handguns. This will solve crime.

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u/Unfatalx 9d ago

Does this import ban affect the mass number of illegal firearms being smuggled into the country? Or just the highly regulated legal ones that aren't being used in crimes?

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u/Northerne30 9d ago

I have a sneaking suspicion that you already know the answer.

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u/That_Panda_8819 9d ago

I hope the gangs get this memo

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u/Joeyjackhammer 9d ago

Getting sick of laws being passed when parliament isn’t in session, how is thiss allowed to happen in a democratic country?!?

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u/RangerNS 9d ago

What new law?

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u/redditsolider Canada 9d ago

Congratulations to the government on implementing a policy that will do absolutely nothing to lower the gun violence.

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u/CringelordCameron 9d ago

This government has passed the point of no return, they no longer care whatsoever about Canada's democratic processes and will use any method possible to implement laws without the scrutiny of parliament. And to all the liberals who think this is a good thing, just remember that if a future conservative government chooses to implement laws without parliamentary approval that you do not support, you willingly allowed your current government to set this precident and normalize the use of OICs. Canada is broken

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u/Mac_Gold 9d ago

It’s amazing to me that some still applaud everything that JT does. I’m not a fan of his, but I’m apolitical and don’t really like any of the candidates from the last two elections. I find JT to be narcissistic and self serving, and either clueless or willfully ignorant to the issues this country faces. And yet out here on the west coast there are still some in my circle of friends and family that will vote for him again if they had the choice, even though they acknowledge some of the things he does make no sense

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u/NotACakeShop 9d ago

I can respect that. In the last 2 years, public trust in both politicians and establishment has dropped dramatically, and your mentality, like mine, is more prevalent than ever. Just look at Ontario's historically low voter turnout as an example. Politicians on both sides of the spectrum are garbage, and the variations in actual politics are miniscule. I think the system worked for a while, but is now showing it's cracks.

The question becomes, how do we resolve this?

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u/Todef_ 9d ago

It’s not about gun crime. It’s about disarming citizens.

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u/AceAxos Lest We Forget 9d ago

These people are so inept it’s insane. It’s actually quite sad to see action that is clearly just to be a better political move than an effective measure. That’s what they’ve always been about

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u/beerwhistle99 9d ago

Fantastic news! So handgun imports will be handled solely by criminal organizations. Perfect!

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u/94boyfat 9d ago

Longest undefended border in the world...r/whatcouldgowrong ?

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u/Arayder 9d ago

Yep, nothing will help stop illegal gun smuggling more than banning legal gun imports!

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u/R-35 9d ago

just some more virtue signaling that won't solve anything....keep punishing legal gun owners, lets see how that works out.

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u/Potential-Brain7735 9d ago

“Canada to bring more business to organized criminals who smuggle hand guns across the border.”

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u/CreepyWindows Ontario 9d ago

Canada announcing absolutely no more legal handguns. Going purely to illegal model.

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u/CheeseSeas 9d ago

Except on Roxham rd. 😅

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u/jimofsunnyvale 9d ago

Trudeau trying yet again to solve problems we don't have. Fuck off.

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u/LittleBear575 8d ago

This subreddit is filled with so many dumb people making dumb throwaway statements.

Man the quality of this subreddit is in the gutter.

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u/_TheRedstoneBlaze_ 8d ago

That sounds like a government that doesnt want to take advantage of you and is working for you... Right?

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u/TAL79 8d ago

Cause guns are the problem right, not the legal system or the federal government. Yeah ok. Turd and his peeps need to resign. PERIOD

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u/darkpositive 8d ago

Great. Now all the illegal guns that are causing most of the gun crime anyways are still in the country, but lawful citizens will have nothing to defend themselves with. I love this country.

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u/jawless777 8d ago

Everything turdeau does, helps the criminals and hinders citizens, under the guise of 'we're doing the right thing'... and people just eat this garbage up on the daily.

When are the majority going to realize this?

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u/Arctic_Chilean Canada 9d ago

This government blowing more public funds on dogshit security theatre policies?

Well color me suprised...

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u/Designation257 9d ago

Colour* You’re Canadian, act it lol

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u/Apples_and_Overtones 9d ago

Being a gun owner in Canada is just a constant exercise of "how am I going to get fucked over by the government today?" I swear.

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u/dumbassname45 9d ago

Convert to a criminal… it’s far less restrictive and the laws being passed are to protect the criminals rights to cause the most trouble. Can’t beat them.. joint them

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u/DT55B 9d ago

...Oooooohhhhhh. Legal handgun imports. Gotcha.

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u/a4dONCA 9d ago

Ok, criminals, you reading this. No. Handguns. /s

This is so dumb.

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u/TomaszRS 9d ago

Hope criminals/smugglers get the memo

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u/RL203 9d ago

So when is the federal government going to setiously crack down on gun smugglers and criminal gangs?

I know, I know. That's meant to be a sarcastic Rhetorical question because we all know the answer is never because it doesn't fit with Justin's narrative.

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u/SpectreBallistics 9d ago

So when is the federal government going to setiously crack down on gun smugglers and criminal gangs?

Never. Why would they? Their tough on gun owners stance is better politics for them.

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u/DeathEater91 Canada 9d ago

This gov is fucking embarrassing.

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u/Hot_Share3660 9d ago

"How can we further shrink our collapsing economy?"

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u/molesterofpriests 9d ago

Looool they'll be back, I'm not worried.

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u/SoftCompetitive675 9d ago

This should say JT is banning legal handgun imports but illegal handgun imports will continue on with no interruption. As JT continues to wage his one man war on legal gun owner in with zero being done to stop the criminal use and import of guns. I'm sure he has cornered the gang involved vote.

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u/Sure_Run_329 9d ago

Thanks for the heads up, just ordered my dream gun before it shuts down!

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u/sunsetsandstardust 9d ago

thanks canadian government, i’m sure that will fix gun crime!

oh wait 85% of shootings in just toronto are from smuggled american guns

the shit this country wastes its focus on 🙄

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u/Saint-Carat 9d ago

2016-2021 gun homicides was ~1,550. They say approx 2/3 are associated with crime so ~500 homicides from legal guns - probably mostly long arms.

2016-2021 Canada had 30,860 opioid related deaths. Throw in associated societal ills from opioids, the costs are staggering in lives and $’s.

Not sure why someone hasn’t asked the justice minister why such focus on the segment we know isn’t an issue over the other. It’s all politics and we foot the bill. Edit - has to hasn’t

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u/itwasntmeitwashim00 9d ago

Well atleast we'll always be able to easily buy illegal, smuggled from the US handguns. Pretty soon that will be gun enthusiasts only option unfortunately

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u/Milesaboveu 9d ago

And now the government won't know about it because all handguns were registered lol

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