r/PublicFreakout Aug 13 '22

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u/usually-quiet88 Aug 13 '22

The ‘mom’ acts like it’s all good and laughing

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u/-LostInTheMachine Aug 13 '22

It's always hard to figure out who the mother is.

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u/Geschirrspulmaschine Aug 14 '22

Mom didn't have air conditioning growing up. There's a good chance the "rescuer" didn't either which is interesting. Someone who grew up in Baltimore could verify but in hot as hell Missouri, schools got ac like 20 years ago

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u/Jermz817 Aug 13 '22

Yeeesssss momma bear!

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u/papalonian Aug 13 '22

Everyone: the kid was fine, he could've just opened the door and got out if it was too hot!

The mentality of the kid: "it's really hot in here and I feel dizzy but my momma will whup my ass if I got out"

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u/MotherBathroom666 Aug 14 '22

This, I rather sit in a car than risk a whooping from my mother, she breaks spoons.

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u/QuickEchidna749 Aug 14 '22

Why would you just assume this to be the case?

Plenty of parents let their kids stay in the car…not under threat of a beating but simply because the kid wants to.

Why would there have to be a threat of violence? What makes you think that’s what happened in this case?

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u/Ashenox Aug 14 '22

Differences in child rearing cultures between ethnic groups. Italian Americans and Black Americans have a similar style that can result in abuse for disobedience.

Much like how in Latin cultures Momma will beat your ass with a flip flop for breaking something or being rude.

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u/papalonian Aug 14 '22

Plenty of parents let their kids stay in the car…not under threat of a beating but simply because the kid wants to.

I know when it's 90+ degrees outside I love sitting alone in the hot car

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u/ineyy Aug 14 '22

Man this thread is so fucking weird. These people seem detached from reality thinking a 10yo is like a dog with dense fur. Reddit at it again. Everyone just assumes the mom is a pos with no real indication that she is.

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u/cXs808 Aug 15 '22

Lemme ask you this - are you gonna stay alone in a car in 90+ degree weather or would you prefer to go into an air conditioned store?

Seems pretty fuckin' obvious to me.

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u/localgravity Aug 14 '22

Found the bad parent! What self report lol

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u/Epoxynovolac Aug 13 '22

I love this lady. It’s so refreshing to see people speak up and call this shit out. It’s not ok. It’s never ok.

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u/QuickEchidna749 Aug 13 '22

Do you really think it’s not okay to leave a 10-12 year old kid alone in a car with the windows down?

I mean, they can easily go outside of the car.

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u/Alert_Study5336 Aug 13 '22

Yeah does this mean I'm old now? My mom left me in the car in the summer all the time once I was about 10. I didn't want to go in and I was more than capable of just opening the door or windows when it got hot. The world changed around me.

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u/starktor Aug 14 '22

power windows also became the standard, I remember rolling down the windows with a crank as a young kid, these electric windows wont let you roll them down unless the keys in

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u/lavahot Aug 13 '22

The world also got hotter.

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u/QuickEchidna749 Aug 13 '22

Maybe I’m old, too. By the time I was 12 I could easily go to the local store in my neighborhood on my own. I could even take a city bus by then.

The kid managed to get into the store just fine, obviously. I think this is a case of virtue signalling run amuck.

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u/ytsirhc Aug 14 '22

soooo virtue signaling is basically people expressing what they believe in?

is your comment actually just you virtue signaling?

is anyone speaking about anything they believe in virtue signaling?

i really hate that phrase because it’s constantly misused and now lacks a solid definition.

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u/QuickEchidna749 Aug 14 '22

What?

I am talking about virtue signalling from the woman yelling at the top of her lungs about CPS as thought she were saving the child from the car?

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u/vanishplusxzone Aug 13 '22

Likely it was also more dangerous when you were 12, too. I know it was when I was.

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u/Epoxynovolac Aug 13 '22

Pretty sure lil man in the Mickey Shirt isn’t 10-12 years old, but go on. And to answer your question, no I don’t think leaving your kid (10-12 years old) in the car in 90° weather is ok. Maybe mom shouldn’t be such a lazy fuck and bring her kid inside the air conditioned store with her.

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u/QuickEchidna749 Aug 13 '22

What’s wrong with the kid staying in the car and playing with a phone or something if they don’t want to go shopping with their mom? Hot weather doesn’t destroy kids…doesn’t make them unable to walk into a store either, as is evidenced by the fact the kid is in the store

Nothing unusual about a kid being in a car. A lot unusual about a woman making a video for internet distribution and threatening to call child services.

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u/pushathieb Aug 13 '22

Hot weather and being told to stay in the car does And has kill kids.

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u/QuickEchidna749 Aug 13 '22

I can imagine many instances where a child 0~6 could die in a car, fewer for a child 6~8.

I think it would take an extraordinary circumstance for a child older than 8 to die in a car due to heat.

Source: my childhood and life experiences. So I am open to the idea I could be wrong.

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u/pushathieb Aug 13 '22

Kids aged 8 to 14 make up 6% of total kids that die in cars each year.

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u/QuickEchidna749 Aug 13 '22

Wow! I am shocked. 8-14 year old kids make up 6% of all children that die in cars due to heat?

Source, please?

In that case, I guess I stand corrected that it’s rare but not extraordinarily rare.

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u/pushathieb Aug 13 '22

Noheatstroke.org but every death could have be prevented if not for people like this more kids would die

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u/QuickEchidna749 Aug 13 '22

Thank you for the source. I did the math in your source 905 total deaths of kids between 1-14 of those, 19 were between the ages of 8-14…aka 2%.

So very rare although maybe not extraordinarily rare. It would take an unusual circumstance for a kid older than 8 to die of heat stroke in a care.

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u/OrdinaryTruth69420 Aug 13 '22

What’s wrong with leaving a child in a car in a random store parking lot?

Pedophiles.

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u/QuickEchidna749 Aug 13 '22 edited Aug 13 '22

That’s fair. It is a dangerous world and there are certainly scenarios where it makes sense for the parent to not leave a child unattended in their car due to a risk of kidnapping/pedophilia.

I’m not convinced that the world is so full of pedophiles waiting to pounce that you should almost never leave your 10ish year old child unattended.

Would you agree that this imminence of the pedophile threat is at least debatable and not worthy of an immediate call to CPS?

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u/OrdinaryTruth69420 Aug 13 '22

I would not.

I would say that the “pedophile threat” is significantly more statistically valid than the child suffering from a heat-related illness.

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u/blendedfarley Aug 13 '22 edited Aug 13 '22

I have to ask since you said statistically

Could you please link your source?

Edit: they linked general child abuse stats to try and back up the their specific claim about parking lot predation. Once again proving that statistical thinking is not at all intuitive.

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u/OrdinaryTruth69420 Aug 13 '22 edited Aug 13 '22

https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/childsexualabuse/fastfact.html

https://www.cdc.gov/pictureofamerica/pdfs/picture_of_america_heat-related_illness.pdf

Significant.

I wonder if this idiot even had anything to add or just wanted to ask for a source because they’re an idiot.

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u/blendedfarley Aug 13 '22

I wonder if this idiot even had anything to add or just wanted to ask for a source because they’re an idiot.

I was going to be nice, but now I feel obligated to be a little condescending.

You do realize you didn't give any relevant statistics on your initial claim, right? You linked overall child abuse statistics, not the statistics of kids being victimized while left in a car. Children aren't always subjected to exact same risk of abuse. They're far more likely to be abused by adults that they know like family members or friends, not by strangers in a fucking parking lot.

You should know this, shouldn't you? I mean, it's already common knowledge but you specifically called out pedophilia so shouldn't you have at least a basic understanding of the topic?

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u/QuickEchidna749 Aug 13 '22

Fair enough. I’m surprised that you would call CPS on an unsupervised child the age of the child in the video on the basis of the threat of pedophilia.

I would imagine pedophilia is relatively rare and that random acts of pedophilia in public are exceedingly rare.

Thank you for sharing your opinions; always interesting to get to know the people with whom I share this planet.

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u/OrdinaryTruth69420 Aug 13 '22

It is disgusting.

Some people just serve their kids up on a plate.

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u/crudedrawer Aug 13 '22

I've got kids. They're the lazy ones, trust me. They'd often rather sit in the car with the windows down on a hot day than go into target. (these are middle school age, not toddlers lest anyone feel scoldy)

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u/crudedrawer Aug 13 '22

LOL wow look at you comin' in hot. Have a great weekend, warrior!

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u/ChonnayStMarie Aug 14 '22

Meanwhile kids in the Sudan hanging out at 110degrees be like, what this bish talkin' bout?

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u/Greenveins Aug 13 '22

often left with the keys, too, so that i can listen to the radio. I could have turned the ac on if i was that miserable as a child but i was often ok with sittin in the car alone

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u/Ashenox Aug 14 '22

I don't expect all kids to realize they're reaching a deadly limit. As an Adult I still have trouble figuring out my temperature breaking point.

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u/lovesaltedpopcorn Aug 13 '22

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u/crudedrawer Aug 13 '22

Why are there so many gifs in this thread did something change on reddit?

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u/lovesaltedpopcorn Aug 13 '22

It's been possible for a while. It's up to a subreddit to allow gifs or not.

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u/crudedrawer Aug 13 '22 I'm Deceased

Hm. I've been wasting my ife on this site for years and had no idea!

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u/millenialfalcon-_- Aug 13 '22

Am from Baltimore. It is hot. Nice to see her speak out

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u/UrRightAndIAmWong Aug 13 '22

Same. Even her saying it was 90 degrees, is an understatement. It felt like 100 degrees or more this past week or two.

Having a window down is still brutal for a stagnant car.

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u/millenialfalcon-_- Aug 13 '22

Yeah even the sunlight burns it's so hot.

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u/MaximumAbsorbency Aug 13 '22

Not there anymore but it's often like 95 and humid as fuck

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u/JustAlexJames03 Aug 14 '22

It’s hot everywhere!

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u/millenialfalcon-_- Aug 14 '22

Yeah when I did new dormitory in Towson in 2018 , my truck said it was like 112F. It was so brutal that the Hispanic concrete guys were seeking shade from the sun.people were passing out from the sun.ill never work outside again lols 😂

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u/Successful-Aide-4389 Aug 13 '22

sometimes people don’t change until they’re publicly shamed/exposed for something, as sad as it is that the kid’s mom needed to be called out publicly for being so negligent I hope it was enough to deter her from leaving her kid(s) in a hot car again. the woman recording has a huge heart and I commend her for advocating for the kid when doing so doesn’t directly benefit her in any way. wish the world had more people like her :’)

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u/Shhutthefrontdoor Aug 13 '22

There’s really people out here saying that leaving a kid in a car on a hot day is acceptable? Some people just should not be parents. /r/parentsarefuckingdumb

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u/ShawshankException Aug 13 '22

People really have the reason "well I didn't die so it's okay!!!"

Leaving the car running with the AC on is one thing, but when it's this hot out you bring your fucking kid in with you or leave them home

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u/ravenstarchaser Aug 13 '22

Yes!! We need more protectors like her

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u/hmclaren0715 Aug 14 '22

I entirely agree!! 🙌

Also, Happy Cake Day!!

ETA I just noticed it's my Cake Day as well!! LOL Does that make us Reddit twins?

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u/ravenstarchaser Aug 14 '22

Yes we are!!! Happy Cake Day Twin!!!

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u/hmclaren0715 Aug 14 '22

Many thanks!! Namaste 🙏

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u/Jigo23 Aug 13 '22

Firstly, I agree completely with her, but after she walked off to the back of the store she was completely just yelling at herself! LOL

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u/SpicyAnxietyTacos Aug 14 '22

Not all heroes wear capes

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u/TeknaNova- Aug 13 '22

It’s hot everywhere people, and this should be the agenda during any summers. DO NOT LEAVE ANY LIVING BEINGS IN YOUR VEHICLE. This goes for your fucking hamsters, your cats and dogs, your kids, and your goddamn goldfish. I will break your car windows if I see any living being in there in the hot ass summers.

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u/hookh00k Aug 13 '22

If it's 70 degree out it's fine to leave an animal in a car. Plus cars can be left on with AC running with them inside if that's an option. But yea other than that if it's over like 10 mins and no owner shows up it's smashing time.

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u/derrymaine Aug 13 '22

Good for her!

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u/martianpee Aug 14 '22

Getem boo

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u/ComprehensiveBed6754 Aug 14 '22

Love you!!!!!!! Speak for the child!!! Amazing!!!!!

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u/Otto_Osworth Aug 14 '22

Always shame people for doing this. They will think twice the next time. You could save a kid

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u/Complete-Plenty-236 Aug 14 '22

Looks like those women would beat him if he said yes. 🤔😭🤣

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u/QuickEchidna749 Aug 13 '22

This lady yelling about protective services for a mother leaving what looks to be a 10-12 year old in a car by himself?

Ummm…what? That kid can open the door and go into the store…windows were down, too.

When I was 12 I could definitely stay in a car by myself and open and close the door as I please.

I would understand if it was a dog or a baby…but this is a whole grown kid.

This yelling lady doing for internet clout. FOH…threatening to destroy families for clicks.

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u/SomeManagement808 Aug 13 '22 edited Aug 13 '22

The short child in super hero attire that didn't move an inch the entire video? He's like 8 at best and I'm sure doesn't understand anything going on besides "I told you to wait in the car!". Weird hill to die on either way Edit: mentioned above: their in Maryland and it is illegal to leave a child under 8 in a car unattended, even with windows down. Congrats in being able to open a car door and not have something happen to you as a child. That anecdote has nothing to do with anything here.

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u/QuickEchidna749 Aug 13 '22

I’m not sure I’m dying on a hill as much as sharing my thoughts on the video. Then again, I’ve never really understood the colloquial use of the reference.

Irrespective of age, many people would freeze at a much larger person shouting and behaving aggressively.

If you think it’s fair game to call child services and publicly shame a mother for leaving what looks to be a physically capable child in a car, then we disagree. No hills. No death.

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u/SomeManagement808 Aug 13 '22

It is illegal to leave a child that young in a vehicle in maryland. If you witness somebody endangering a child by breaking the law. The least you could do is call CVS so they come and INVESTIGATE for that childs well being. They don't just show up and grab kids. A complaint is made and a follow up is done. If the kids not in danger nothing happens. Seems like the public shaming is what you're against.

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u/QuickEchidna749 Aug 13 '22 edited Aug 13 '22

Maryland law says you can’t leave a child of younger than 8 years old alone locked in a car or house.

Seems reasonable to me. No way that kid is younger than 8.

If you call child services, especially on a black family, you leave them to the discretion of state employees. You put that family at serious risk. At the very least you bring unnecessary drama into the lives of people.

This is just Reddit. We don’t need to agree. I appreciate you sharing your side. What’s more, although I am surprised and disappointed; your position seems to be the popular take.

Cheers

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u/KerryUSA Aug 13 '22

Lol I’m not surprised by peoples take….just that it’s for a kid that big. At his size and age the biggest worry of leaving in car alone is someone taking em. Unlike a baby or dog (assuming child lock is off) he has the ability to get out.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '22

Got left in the car lots of time starting when I was about 8. I had 0 issues whatsoever with that. What did traumatize me though was a crazy ass Karen confronting my parents and yelling about CPS and me sitting there thinking I was going to be taken away by the police.

So sincerely and from the bottom of my heart, fuck you and fuck all people like you.

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u/SomeManagement808 Aug 13 '22

/thathappened Sincerely think you're doing your mom's parenting a disservice the more you share

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '22 edited Aug 13 '22

Thank you for showing everyone that you don't give a single shit about whats good for a kid and its all about feeling good about yourself.

Once again, fuck you.

edit: Also what is so unbelievable about what happened to me when we are literally in a thread about a video depicting that same thing you stupid fuck

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u/SomeManagement808 Aug 14 '22

Sure seemed like she raised a well adjusted adult. Keep sharing.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '22

??? The whole point is I am not well adjusted when it comes to this specific topic due to the actions of the Karen. That shit was traumatic for an 8 year old. But hey keep mocking it :). Why don’t you find a girl who got groped next and make fun of that? “Maybe if your parents raised you right you wouldn’t have been groped” What a well adjusted adult YOU are

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u/SomeManagement808 Aug 16 '22

Your poor mother

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u/SomeManagement808 Aug 16 '22

Sure seems like you're using the Karen as a scapegoat for your shitty trauma filled childhood. You were neglected, not abused, and now your mind goes back to the time somebody noticed. Your subconscious wondering what life could have been? Or just classic transference. You could blame your mom but she did the best she could and for some reason that makes it okay. Maybe some people's best isn't good enough to be taking care of a child. Since one momentary experience would not mold you into the aggressively defensive person you've become.

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u/ScreamingPotato Aug 14 '22

You clearly grew up in a different time and didn’t have a Game Boy and rather stay in the car and enjoy the time alone instead of following your parents around a grocery store at 12 years old

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u/igottapinchthetip Aug 13 '22

So bad parenting and bad Karenting, got it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '22

Nah the bad parenting was sheltering me a bit too much, this was an example of good parenting wish they did more stuff like that.

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u/smitrovich Aug 13 '22

I will probably get downvoted to hell, but I'm also confused about what the issue is. The kid is in the car with the windows down. He's clearly old enough to be left alone. My parents left me in the car constantly when I was growing up. And I would often ASK if I could wait in the car instead of going inside to do the errands.

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u/SomeManagement808 Aug 13 '22

"clearly old enough to be left alone" based on what? Not that he isn't, but every person agreeing with you on this is just citing their own personal experiences (10 years ago).

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u/cXs808 Aug 15 '22

my experience at one time in my life was this. Therefore it stands to reason everyone else has experienced it exactly the same as I have.

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u/smitrovich Aug 16 '22

No. My point is that parenting styles are vary. It’s reasonable for this parent to make decisions about what is right for her child without a screaming shrew threatening to call child protective services.

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u/cXs808 Aug 16 '22

My point is that parenting styles are vary. It’s reasonable for this parent to make decisions about what is right for her child without a screaming shrew threatening to call child protective services.

And it's also reasonable to expect someone to look out for the wellbeing of a child, especially if it feels like 100 degrees out. Point being, neither of us have any clue about this case of "parenting style" but I'll typically side with someone who is looking out for a child because there are tons of cases where kids are subjected to inhumane treatment simply because of poor parenting.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '22

I had a job on the local vegetable farm when I was 9.

Parents know their own kids. If my 12 year old doesn’t wanna go into a store with me? “I’ll be right back. Listen to the radio or watch your iPad”

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u/SomeManagement808 Aug 13 '22

Lol I grew up in wi and did the same at 13. However I'm not ignorant enough to believe my own personal experiences should dictate anything. If you did that at 9 you're either full of shit or old enough that if you disappeared nobody would even know besides your family and people that saw you on a milk carton. And that kid is not close to 12. if you really have one you'd immediately recognize this.

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u/QuickEchidna749 Aug 13 '22

I think many places 12-13 is when you can start babysitting.

If a 12-13 year old can be trusted to watch a child, I don’t think 8-10 is too young to figure out how to unlock a door and go find your mom in a store. Surprisingly, this seems like a minority option on Reddit.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '22

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '22

So, just because some people abuse their kids, that should be the default position and we should treat random people like abusers, absent any actual evidence?

My addition was absolutely relevant.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '22

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '22

And you’re writing off my argument, wholesale, by making the opposite hypothetical. If that’s all you have, kick rocks.

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u/NoExcusesET Aug 13 '22

Praise this woman! 🙌

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u/designer_of_drugs Aug 13 '22

Why does everyone have to record themselves doing everything?

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u/ChonnayStMarie Aug 14 '22

Anyone think this lady is just looking for attention and really couldn't give a rats ass about the kid?

I'm just asking. It's the vibe us old fucks get when folks make damn well sure they are getting this all on video so they'll have something to post and preen themselves over. Maybe I'm just old but when people have a genuine concern they don't bother to record themselves being the "hero", they just do the right thing and having done it is reward enough.

Shrug

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u/Interesting_Factor_9 Aug 14 '22

Nah she just wanted to make a scene..that boy was old enough to know wtf he wanted to do

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u/BreedinBacksnatch Aug 13 '22

"With the windows down or not"

so you're telling me that boy in the Superman shirt was in the car with the windows down BY HIMSELF??

Sounds like a respite.

This is not the same as if it were a younger child, or if the windows were up with no way of lowering them. The woman recording the video needs therapy.

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u/derrymaine Aug 13 '22

It’s really not ok. Even with windows down it gets lethally hot in a car in the summer. And what if someone came along and took him from the car? This woman is right to sound off.

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u/suddenlycumbly Aug 13 '22

IIRC even with the windows down, like five minutes would be dangerous on a hot day.

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u/QuickEchidna749 Aug 13 '22

What if someone came along and took him when he is at the park? I think kids at the age of 10-12 should be given some level of autonomy.

Being left alone in the car to doesn’t strike me as too complex of a situation for a child that age. You’re right, however, the remote possibility of a catastrophic outcome is always there.

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u/derrymaine Aug 13 '22

I agree with you actually. I’m all about giving kids some freedom at the right ages and plan to do it with my own. I think a 10-12 year old kid with a good head should ride bikes and go to the park with friends and no parents. Hell, I am the parent who has locked the car with a kid in it and run in to 7-11 for a gallon of milk because I know it’s a 30 second trip and can see the car. But I am still not going to let my under 10 year old kid sit in a boiling car in high summer for an undetermined amount of time even if “they want to” because it’s not safe and if they change their mind and get out of the car, I then have to trust they won’t blindly pelt across a busy parking lot.

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u/QuickEchidna749 Aug 13 '22

Okay, a question:

Would you call Child Services on someone that left an 8-12 year old in a car with the windows down, because the parent thought their child could handle it?

What poses more of a threat to that child:

Their experiences with child services?

The hot car?

Genuinely curious how you consider these questions.

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u/derrymaine Aug 13 '22

As long as the kid wasn’t in distress or having problems when I noticed, I’d probably first wait by the car for 10 mins to see if the parent comes out. If 10 mins has gone by and no parent emerges, this clearly wasn’t a quick “in for a loaf of bread” errand. I’d then knock on the window to see if the kid would talk to me first and then call the cops from there depending on what they had to say, especially if it is a hot summer day. Younger kid or kid in any sort of car seat/booster seat that needs adult help to open, cops are called after a 1 minute wait.

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u/QuickEchidna749 Aug 13 '22

Interesting approach.

I can’t say I agree, but I am glad to know you would have a process before jumping to calling authorities.

Thanks for sharing. ✌️

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u/derrymaine Aug 13 '22

Haha sure. No, I’m seriously not a psycho that would call CPS for a kid walking to the park on their own. That sort of thing has gotten out of hand. And I understand that sometimes kids are well, assholes, and hauling them out of the car for a two minute errand is more trouble than it’s worth.

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u/QuickEchidna749 Aug 13 '22

Yeah…it’s a world of grey. That’s why it’s so dangerous to deal in absolutes. I can imagine several instances when leaving a 15 year old kid alone in a car could be seen as irresponsible just as I can imagine instances where there is no issue leaving an 11 year old alone in a car.

Calling CPS is a big step and shouldn’t be done to prove a point but rather to save a child from a dangerous situation.

Life in the system, even at the fringes of it, is no fun.

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u/derrymaine Aug 13 '22

Absolutely. The podcast “Do No Harm” was a horrible listen but a good reminder of how complex CPS is and also what poverty and race can do to outcomes of cases. It is for sure scary what can happen with a bad read on an innocent situation.

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u/cartiercorneas Aug 14 '22

people usually watch their children at the park no? He looks like 8. at that age lots of parents go to the park w their children so they can watch them.

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u/BreedinBacksnatch Aug 13 '22 edited Aug 13 '22

He evidently didnt stay in the car. He has agency. He can chose to stay, or chose to go. A car with the windows down might be unpleasant but it is not illegal to have a child in there edit: It IS illegal in Maryland for children under 8, as commented below. The child can open the door. He's not a baby.

Your second point is whataboutism; that could happen on his own block, or even playing alone in his front yard.

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u/derrymaine Aug 13 '22

So if he is younger than 8 in Maryland it actually IS A CRIME to leave them unattended in a car (or a home or whatever).

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u/BreedinBacksnatch Aug 13 '22

that being the case, I withdraw my argument about it not being illegal(in Maryland). That is not the case for me here in Florida.

The rest of my argument I stand behind, though I would act in deference to the laws of the area even if I believed it to be overreaching.

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u/carwarrantyspeclist Aug 14 '22

Nobody gives a fuck about your backwater ass Florida laws. Florida says you can't say gay either. Fuck you and Ron de satan

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u/Pathetian Aug 13 '22

You can't account for everything or constantly monitor your kids 100% of the time, especially if you are poor. The kid was in no more danger than if he were playing right outside his front door at home.

He isn't young enough for him to be trapped in a hot car and die.

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u/derrymaine Aug 13 '22

Being poor has nothing to do with leaving your kids in a car. Of course you can’t take away the risk of every activity but she did something KNOWN to be risky and also illegal depending on your locale. Your argument makes no sense at all.

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u/Pathetian Aug 13 '22

Being poor definitely affects whether or not you can see your kids constantly supervised and accounted for to prevent kidnapping. You were the one who brought up someone "coming along and taking him".

Hot cars are dangerous to babies and pets because they don't have the motor skills to just get out of the car. Kind of like how babies can roll over onto a blanket and suffocate. But you wouldn't berate someone for giving an 8 year old a blanket.

This is why hot car laws have an age limit.

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u/derrymaine Aug 13 '22

Omggggg. I am not talking about the poor single mom who has to juggle two jobs and risk leaving her 8 year old home alone as a latchkey kid because she doesn’t have childcare. I feel for the struggles of those parents. This video shows a mom with two kids who went shopping and she left at least one purposely in a hot car. What if there was a child lock on in the car and even an adult couldn’t open the door from the inside? What if there wasn’t and kid got himself out and got hit by a car running across the parking lot? WHAT DOES WHAT HAPPENED HERE HAVE TO DO WITH BEING POOR? This mom made a BAD choice no matter her income, race, or educational status. I don’t know why you are defending it.

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u/Pathetian Aug 13 '22

You are literally the person who brought up the kid potentially being kidnapped. That's the only reason I brought up being poor. It's got nothing to do with the hot car.

I already explained that him being left in the car isn't even an issue at his age as long as he isn't trapped. If she literally physically imprisoned him in the car, yes that would be dangerous.

Now you are just making up random Final Destination scenarios where this might result in death. Now the goalpost is moved to it being dangerous if he gets out?

There is a reason hot car laws are limited to very young children. It's physically more dangerous to them and they can't get out of the car on their own. The kid may well have been uncomfortable, but it's a huge stretch to suggest he is in danger.

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u/derrymaine Aug 13 '22

Cool story. I’m glad you are such an expert on parenting. If you were a mom I think you’d know that playing the “what if” scenarios are how parent brains often operate.

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u/sp00pySquiddle Aug 14 '22

My sister always stays in the car on her phone. For a while mum would say "no its too hot" but my sister didn't really care. She didn't wanna be around ppl. (she was a teenager and could get out of the car if she wanted) but eventually mum said "ok just have the windows down ok?" The age limit seems fine like you said, she can get out of the car. I stayed in the car a couple times when I was like twelve. Sometimes I'd change my mind and run into the store after a bit. At the time I thought it was fun to go into the store and hunt my parents down and go BOO bc I was twelve and thought it was fun. Usually I'd stay in the car and look out the window or read or write. I feel like 8 is a good age but idk what the rules are. Mum gave my sister the car keys when she was younger and also said "come in if you change your mind" which she never did. I don't see a huge problem tho honestly. Babies and dogs are a problem and I think if your kids like five they shouldn't be left alone. 12 sounds fine to me

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u/sp00pySquiddle Aug 14 '22

also its the dollar store so like..I feel like mum isn't gonna be wandering around for two hours in the dollar store :/

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u/Pathetian Aug 14 '22

Exactly, it takes an hour or two for the most vulnerable to die from a hot car. No one over like 6 ever dies this way unless they are physically trapped (like in a police vehicle).

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u/Samsquish Aug 13 '22

Okay but if my momma told me to sit my ass in the car, you bet I fucking sat. You're missing the point.

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u/lolno Aug 13 '22

"do I sit in this hot ass car, or open the door, probably set the alarm off, go in this store, find my mom, get the keys, turn the alarm off, and get rewarded with an ass whooping later?"

And of course one time you do it is the one time she was about to be done and come back out lol

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u/Samsquish Aug 13 '22

Seems like we've lived similar lives!

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u/Beefyhaze Aug 13 '22

You dont have to be rich to bring your kid into a store with you.

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u/telllos Aug 13 '22

Well it really depends on the weather. I stayed with my kids the other day while my wife was getting bread. We stayed 5-10 min, there was a nice breeze, the windows were down.

You have to use your judgment. Plus the kids is between 8-10, I'm sure he knows how to get out.

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u/ScreamingPotato Aug 14 '22

That poor 14 year old kid is in more danger of getting his ass whooped now because he probably didn’t want to get down and said he’ll wait in the car with the windows down. Fuck, now as a 34 year old anytime I take my mom to the grocery store im gonna have to get down so they don’t call the cops on her.

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u/Interesting_Factor_9 Aug 14 '22

I thought she was talking about a damn infant/toddler! That boy old enough to know if he wants to open the door and go in the store or not, he was even looking confused as hell..I SAID WHAT I SAID argue with ya mama

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u/spicy_cantelope Aug 13 '22

I love you mom!

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u/Flyin_Brian- Aug 13 '22

Love this woman.

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u/RepresentativeMark24 Aug 13 '22

Talking common sense!!

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u/YT_ToxicNinjaGaming Aug 13 '22

Yes mam. You got this

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u/hail-satan420 Aug 13 '22

“Yeah, tell it to protective services, miss.” Iconic line.

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u/Positive_Mark_7890 Aug 13 '22

She said, “It ain’t over” like Kirk Franklin 😂

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u/MadeByLife84 Aug 13 '22

Preach sista! Bahaha! She’s not wrong for what she saying.

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u/Objective-Block2080 Aug 13 '22

bless the stranger looking out for the children

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u/theintern747 Aug 13 '22

GOOD 👏 FOR 👏 HER 👏

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u/MRL102960 Aug 14 '22

As well she should

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u/bburnaccountt Aug 14 '22

I wish I could hire this woman to yell at people who annoy me bc this is beautiful.

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u/JustAlexJames03 Aug 14 '22

“Was you hot?”

Lol, you boutta lose your fucking kids!

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u/CousinEddie144 Aug 14 '22

Cameraman: Michael J. Fox

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u/bpaq3 Aug 14 '22

Poor child.

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u/The_one_12 Aug 14 '22

She’s so sparkly… I like her

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u/HanzMurphy69 Aug 14 '22

Bring back chemical castration.

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u/pandorafoxxx Aug 14 '22

This woman is a Queen.

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u/dreamin_a_dream Aug 14 '22

I LOVE that she mentions that if that woman was in the car outside shed be having the ac on full blast so why cant you do the same for ur kids. And if ur gonna be in the store long enough you dont wanna waste gas by leaving the ac on ur kid shouldn't be outside alone for that long anyways

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u/TryTwiceAsHard Aug 13 '22

I mean, it's a child old enough to get out of the car. Trust me, I'd break a window and a face over a baby or a dog, but this kid is probably 7 or 8. Still probably not a great idea if the car wasn't on, but he wouldn't have let himself die in there.

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u/Miserable-Pop-7049 Aug 13 '22

He was a white kid

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u/Geschirrspulmaschine Aug 14 '22

So this is interesting. Not everyone has air conditioning at their house. With these recent heatwaves you see people "rescuing" dogs that are sleeping outside or in this case a kid with the windows down that may be in those conditions all day everyday.

Interestingly, the woman who did the rescue is old enough that there's a good chance her schools weren't air conditioned growing up. In St Louis, MO area our schools got ac about 15 years ago.