r/PublicFreakout Aug 13 '22

Mexico cartel burns convenience store after the capture of one of its leaders by the army

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u/BenderBRoriguezzzzz Aug 13 '22

Does the army also run convenience stores?

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u/Medium_Sun8689 Aug 13 '22

There showing citizens what happens when they take the wrong side

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u/Xen0tech Aug 13 '22

That's inconvenient

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u/Just_whyareyou Aug 13 '22

The inconvenient store.

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u/BabyRaperMcMethLab Aug 13 '22

Fuck that made me almost spit my drink out

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u/itmustbeluv_luv_luv Aug 13 '22

You can't win with the cartels. There is no loyalty.

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u/dida2010 Aug 13 '22

We are all in this, together.

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u/loudflower 25d ago

Outgunning them is the only way.

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u/Longjumping-Voice452 Aug 13 '22

Will the cartel find out what happens when they leave people hurt with nothing left to lose?

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u/Solidus_King Aug 13 '22

There have been isolated instances but not enough people are doing it for it to matter unfortunately.

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u/Medium_Sun8689 Aug 13 '22

Nothing happens, the cartel has ran that country for over a decade, when people get tired and had enough they immigrate to the us

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u/bjuergolei Aug 13 '22

just a decade ;)?

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u/vavromaz Aug 14 '22

They don’t care

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '22

It seems the cartel isn't too happy with that

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u/Ok-Confusion-1293 Aug 14 '22

No they seem fired up

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u/Hanamafana Aug 13 '22

Burn everything down until he is released?

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u/Tilye2880 Aug 13 '22

Unfortunately it's worked in the past ...they behaved similarly when chapo or his son was captured, I forgot which

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u/Longjumping-Voice452 Aug 13 '22

Seems like the solution is to stop capturing cartel members. And start executing them Bin Laden style.

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u/SPAZZEH Aug 14 '22

Its the solution that was needed a long time ago

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u/TheHumanThumbo Aug 14 '22

Anti cartel task force that just on sights any cartel members they see.

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u/Pepe-es-inocente Aug 13 '22

Ovidio Guzmán. His brother had him rescued after he was caught. They went after the families of the military who live in a government complex.

They also unarmed soldiers and took them hostage. The president of Mexico ordered his release because they took the city.

I live in this city and it all happened in daylight, rush hour. People were hiding anywhere they could.

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u/mielita Aug 13 '22

I think it was his son, i wanna say that was after Chapo was in u.s custody

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u/bedfastflea Aug 14 '22

That situation was far far more worse. Literally a war mexico surrendered too.

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u/MRSHELBYPLZ Aug 13 '22

It was his son. El Chapo was already in a U.S. prison when this happened.

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u/tzdsgyw1115 Aug 13 '22

In the end, innocent people suffer the most

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u/shpongleyes Aug 13 '22

Why did the army capture one of the convenience store leaders?

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u/TheWildJonny Aug 14 '22

It was too convenient

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u/poorgasms Aug 13 '22

Take that you innocent people trying to make a living the right way 🥴

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '22

Its crazy how kitted out some of these cartel guys are

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u/Tighesofly Aug 13 '22

When will the government just inaugurate the cartel as the leaders since they pretty much are anyways

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u/SonsOfLiberty- Aug 13 '22

Cause then the drug problem in the US will see a hundred percent increase, prompting them to ask the new Mexican government to stop, they won't, causing an actual war on drugs.

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u/Craftsearcher Aug 13 '22

The war on drugs can't be won. Whoever thinks otherwise is oblivious to the obvious or completely stupid. There's just too much money to be gained. Even if u manage to neutralize all the cartels there will be new ones rising up to fill the void. The only way to fix this issue is through a regulated and heavily controlled legalized market with consumer protection.

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u/SlipperyWhisker20 Aug 13 '22

The cartels need to be crushed

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u/Destinoz Aug 13 '22

Did President Obrador release whoever they captured yet? He’s done this before, so the narcos know it works.

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u/TinoessS Aug 13 '22

That what happens when u negotiate with terrorists

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u/Longjumping-Voice452 Aug 13 '22

Mexico is weird. It's technically in a civil war with the cartels, the government just... refuses to actually go to war. The cartel control large masses of the country, to the point where popular tourist destinations are ENTIRELY controlled by cartels. This is like if The South seceded and The Union just pretended they were still a part of it while fighting small skirmishes here and there. And its been like this for decades at this point.

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u/Polished-Gold Aug 13 '22

They tried to go to war and failed miserably. The current situation is the result.

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u/Destinoz Aug 13 '22 edited Aug 13 '22

They didn’t really go to war. They tried to use military to fight cartels, true, but they didn’t invade entire sections of the country declare martial law while employing large scale bombardment and heavy armor to utterly annihilate cartel compounds. They still wanted to employ their justice system to fight the enemy. They still treated the enemy as civilians as opposed to enemy combatants to be crushed and broken.

No one has the stomach for that sort of action. The collateral damage would be massive, and it would take a very long time. The problem is that while the current situation sees fewer killings at a time, which is more easily endured, over longer periods produces an astronomical body count and cripples the nation. They’re left with no politically viable options.

If there were a viable straight forward solution Mexico would have done so already. There’s no easy way out of this situation for them.

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u/Pepe-es-inocente Aug 13 '22

Maybe if they weren't armed and funded by the US.

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u/Chicano_Ducky Aug 13 '22 edited Aug 13 '22

They went to physical war for decades with US support and it was a failure. What do you mean they never went to war? The biggest one was under Felipe Calderon and that was the worst failure.

The current approach is holistic but that too fails.

You cant fight cartels without fighting their foreign backers, Russia and China. These arent just gangs.

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u/Pepe-es-inocente Aug 13 '22

The US is arming and funding the cartels. Not Russia or China

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u/Spascucci Aug 14 '22

The cartel only controls small pockets of isolated rural regions, in the other parts of the country they work like a mafia they dont work as a government, they control.illegal activities like prostitución and drugs and when they get upset or fight over territory between gangs they procede to break havoc and burn some things around but as soon as the army shows up they run to hide like cockroaches.

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u/Leonlovely Aug 13 '22

Wait is that screaming them killing someone? Like it stops right after the gun shot….

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u/RealRenewal Aug 13 '22

That’s what I was thinking! I had to scroll to find this comment…sounds like it goes super high pitch, like someone is about to get shot

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u/goonerfrog10 Aug 13 '22

This headline isn't accurate. This is in Juarez, Mexico, a sister city to my beloved El Paso. From the air it looks like the same giant city with a big wall in the middle. Anyway, there was a gang fight inside the prison that lead to several high ranking members of the cartel being killed. That conflict has spread out onto the streets and has gangs fighting amongst each other as well as gangs fighting against the police and the Mexican army. It got so bad that they urged all of Juarez's residents to stay inside their homes at all costs.

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u/anonwashere96 Aug 18 '22 edited Aug 18 '22

This happened in Ixtlahucan 7 days ago. They captured the 2nd in command from a cartel that governs that area. at least 24 people died during the military operation and the cartel was burning cars, and businesses at random afterwards. I know through someone that lives nearby. The government said there were no casualties, but apparently there are pictures that the locals took floating around in nearby towns.

Although I had heard about it through someone I googled it for funsies and here's an article: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/8/11/violence-mexico

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u/tomitomo Aug 13 '22

Lopez Obrador's term can't come any sooner. Terrible fake leftist president. To hell with his "hugs over bullets" campaign. We need to treat Mexico's worst criminals like terrorists.

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u/Longjumping-Voice452 Aug 13 '22

War is one of the few times where diplomacy will not work. Mexico has been at war for decades now. They need to eradicate the cartel like vermin, like Nazis. They need a government that will fight the cartel head on and either lose the entire country to the cartel or win the country back to the people. Those are the only options left at this point.

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u/mursilissilisrum Aug 13 '22

War is one of the few times where diplomacy will not work. Mexico has been at war for decades now. They need to eradicate the cartel like vermin, like Nazis.

So...Kill all of their own people and let god sort them out? Coolsies...

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u/Longjumping-Voice452 Aug 15 '22

War is war, peacetime logic does not work in war. Sometimes you don't choose war but war chooses you.

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u/mursilissilisrum Aug 15 '22

Sounds like some neckbeard shit to me.

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u/Longjumping-Voice452 Aug 15 '22

Then you need to read up on some wars lol. I'd suggest start with the biggest and move your way down.

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u/CertifiedOniiChan Aug 13 '22 edited Aug 13 '22

Felipe Calderon is a good example on why declaring war on the cartel is the worst option. This isnt some small town alt right group with tiki torches.

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u/ytsirhc Aug 13 '22

to be fair, lot’s of people were extra mad at him because he “won” an election that a lot of citizens believed wasn’t legitimate, and then he immediately declared war on the drug cartels as a way to get more people to believe his victory.

i feel like both factors contributed to the huge uptick in violence during his time as president

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u/Informal-Busy-Bat Aug 13 '22

declared war on the drug cartels as a way to get more people to believe his victory.

Actually it was to take out the rivals of his narco buddies, he was an actual narco-president and was drunk most of the time.

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u/Informal-Busy-Bat Aug 13 '22

These dumbasses don't get it, talking about armed response of this caliber is easy when you're not at the fighting floor.

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u/SPAZZEH Aug 14 '22

I agree. He didn’t execute them when given the chance.

If you are going to declare war, you need to finish the job. This is the only option that will work. Execution of the cartels.

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u/bonesofberdichev Aug 13 '22

Was just reading about him earlier. What a joke. He’s empowered the cartels so much they will probably never be on their back feet again.

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u/Jesta83 Aug 13 '22

That'll teach em...

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u/3PoundsOfFlax Aug 13 '22

now it's an inconvenience store

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u/LudicrousSpeedGoJr Aug 13 '22

They burned down a convenience store for revenge? Jotos

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u/PototoMaster Aug 13 '22

Fuck cartels, all my homie hate pissy cartel boys playing army

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '22

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u/Informal-Busy-Bat Aug 13 '22

Yeah, it always should be said all narcos are bitch ass cowards, fuck them and anyone who cheer for them.

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u/Spiritual-Ear3782 Aug 13 '22

What a bunch of disgusting low lives

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u/EmphaticGreyMage Aug 13 '22

Shit's so fucking childish...

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u/bruhwhome Aug 13 '22

So when are they gonna become enough of an issue to where we bring the boys in to...help lol

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u/PidgeonCoo Aug 13 '22

Sounds inconvenient

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u/BraveProfile5602 Aug 13 '22

Bright side it’s things and not people I guess 😐

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u/GerardoPasky Aug 13 '22

Oh! my beloved nightmare called Mexico

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u/GetMad24 Aug 13 '22

El mencho!

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u/itmustbeluv_luv_luv Aug 13 '22

Pura gente del Señor Menso! Puro grupo elote!

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u/Jpchubblog Aug 14 '22

THANKS to Felipe Calderon, not only he left El Mencho go out of prision, he also armed all his cartel, the same cartel that is doing this shit, got over 25,000 arms from US between 2006 and 2013

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u/waynep712222 Aug 13 '22

Are they taking lessons from maga trumpers

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u/henta1memereference Aug 13 '22

Were they the ones that did CHAZ?

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u/JonLongsonLongJonson Aug 13 '22

No, they’re the terrorists who did 1/6 actually

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u/KronosRocks Aug 13 '22

Fucking pussies attacking civilians like uncultured termites.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '22

Mexico really is a shit hole

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u/Signature_Sea Aug 13 '22

Yeah, it's a bit destabilising living with the CIA up your ass

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u/itmustbeluv_luv_luv Aug 13 '22

Can't have a prosperous mexico, where's the cheap labor going to come from?

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '22

Central America

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u/itmustbeluv_luv_luv Aug 13 '22

Nah, they'll also want to become prosperous. Can't have an example of a working civil society in Latin America.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '22

I mean why should they the states is falling apart at the seams so crash and burn I guess

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u/Xpropriation07 Aug 13 '22

Part of why they're falling apart is because of continued interference and destabilization done by the US

Know your history

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u/Informal-Busy-Bat Aug 13 '22

Asking a yankee to know anything is like asking a pig to fly.

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u/thebillshaveayes 13d ago

Tbf us education is a shit show. Kids don’t even learn all of the history of the USA and what they learn is so whitewashed to the point of inaccuracy. Not to dissolve responsibility of each US citizen; each one should take an active role to learn about all aspects of US history and world history.

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u/d-o-r_t-y__u-n_c-l_3 Aug 13 '22

IMO the US is still more dangerous.

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u/RonPaulalamode Aug 13 '22

This shit isn't gonna last forever. The Mexican people will find themselves in a better situation. This shit can't go on forever. The world is modernizing too fast, and Mexico is too close to the USA, with a huge Mexican American population. There is no way this continues into the next century. Somehow someway this problem will be mitigated.

I mean this is open war against your own citizens. It is absolute terrorism. I feel like there is too much light being shone on this situation for it to persist much longer. I hope the cream rises to the top, and good people begin to be unafraid and show amazing courage, there is no way this can continue much longer.

I still have no idea how the USA hasn't made this their top priority. Nothing but hypocrisy can explain why this isn't discussed in every presidential election, every news cycle even. They will play up the righteous freedom fighters when it suits them, but when their neighbors struggle they are no where to be found.

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u/Miloniia Aug 13 '22

Mexico doesn’t want American intervention, they’re staunchly against it.

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u/RonPaulalamode Aug 13 '22

I'm not talking about the Iraq war, I'm saying more direct and immediate support.

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u/Miloniia Aug 13 '22

It’s also hard to support a government that’s partially bought out (likely under threat of a horrific death) by the same cartels you’re trying to dismantle.

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u/RonPaulalamode Aug 13 '22

Well something has to give

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u/Miloniia Aug 13 '22

I respect the optimism - I don’t know if something will. This is a common story in other latin american countries too.

I’ve always wondered if they could be turned into regulated corporations with government incentives to keep the violence between each other down. They are really good at making money, after all.

The only issue I’d suspect is that they want full dominion over areas they operate within. Down to laws and tax collection.

They need a better option to compete on non-violent terms that are more beneficial than how they’re doing things now.

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u/Informal-Busy-Bat Aug 13 '22

I'm saying more direct and immediate support

You can support us by not arming these shit gobblers and not protecting the banks that launder their money.

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u/RonPaulalamode Aug 13 '22

Me? Cool ill get right on that, problem solved

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u/Informal-Busy-Bat Aug 13 '22

Cool, I expect results within a week.

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u/Usual-Control4009 Aug 13 '22

Shouldn’t they go for the army ????

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u/Informal-Busy-Bat Aug 13 '22

Army men actually fire back and with nice accuracy I must say.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '22

How is this real

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u/Seba97146 Aug 13 '22

Makes sense

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u/SumerSetGanja_Farmer Aug 13 '22

Looks like the start of a shitty dead rising remake

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u/Icy-Ad8290 Aug 13 '22

Clean up on isle 2!

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u/TCK-1717 Aug 13 '22

The fires shooting at us

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u/ataraxic89 Aug 13 '22

The international community needs to be treating the Mexican cartels like a serious terrorist organization.

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u/lfohnoudidnt Aug 13 '22

This why families are trying to gtfoot. It's basically an fing war zone.

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u/blabittyblahblah Aug 13 '22

Any updates on this? I'm worried an innocent person died in there?

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u/skulltroxx2154 Aug 13 '22

Sounds like a mission i did in COD Black Ops 2 (as Alex Mason)

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u/Fit-Boomer Aug 13 '22

I wonder what role the convenience store played in his arrest?

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u/SuckingOnMyHuevos Aug 13 '22

They’re having a fire sale!

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u/getpoopedon Aug 13 '22

Mexico is a terrorist state lol they need to do what El Salvador is doing and treat gang/cartel members like dogs.

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u/martianpee Aug 13 '22

Wild west

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u/Glitttch Aug 13 '22

Why the gas station and not the Police station

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u/mancave313 Aug 13 '22

Because fuck that 7/11 in particular

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u/Intransigient Aug 13 '22

The capture was very… inconvenient for them.

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u/Odd-City8153 Aug 13 '22

I wish they would burn themselves

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u/GreasyAlfredo Aug 13 '22

So when are we gunna label these guys a terror organization already? I mean some of the early Al Queda execution films were inspired by the brutality the cartels showed in theirs.

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u/csarcs Aug 14 '22

The goverment dont need the cartels any more… Cartels are starting to lose power thats why they are scare

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u/SHODAN117 Aug 14 '22

yo solo veo puro cobarde a la verga

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u/Razmataz76 Aug 14 '22

Probably an OxxO convenience store in Mexico....they are the 7-Elevens of Mexico. Andale Pindejo!!

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u/BlitheIndividual Aug 14 '22

I have family living in Mexicali and what they’re telling us is fucking crazy. My cousin’s husband needed a police escort from work just to make it home safely and students from a local university had to stay overnight as it was too dangerous to leave until morning. Last I heard, there is a total of 11 dead(including a 12 year old boy and a pregnant woman). Mexico as a country is known to have these types of problems but from all the years my family has lived in Mexicali, never have they experienced something like this. It’s even crazier when you realize how close Mexicali is to California.

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u/AspiringIdealist Aug 15 '22

I was wondering if they wore their uniforms while doing this; and the fact that they even have uniforms at all really speaks to how successful the drug war has been.

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u/_sly101 20d ago

How are the cartels not a deginated terrorist group??? They're worst than the terrorist in the middle East

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u/Houndizzle805 12d ago

The convenience store captured one of its leaders? Cool

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u/Ferfoxfox 4d ago

El narco bien macho contra los civiles desarmados

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u/Yankeesfan420 Aug 13 '22

Dont fuck with the best.

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u/incuensuocha Aug 13 '22

Run, run, the dick! That’s the translation of what he said at the beginning. Such a weird use of the word dick.

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u/WorldwideFCA Aug 14 '22

It’s mexico fault man. Feel bad for the people. Remember when trump offered to assist by categorizing them as terrorist and going after them. They said no.