r/PublicFreakout Jul 01 '22

China's inhumane pandemic rules mean patients must clear covid tests before they are admitted for treatment. In this video, a man in Dandong has just had a stroke but precious time is lost on administering the test. The unfortunate ones die before test results come back. 😷Pandemic Freakout

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u/Valdie29 Jul 01 '22

The more you wait the more damage brain takes. Higher chances of paralysis

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u/corpsemaggot_ Jul 01 '22

my grandpa had a stroke and my parents found him unconscious. he died three days later in the hospital. feel bad for this guy.

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u/thefathermucker Jul 01 '22

Sorry for your loss 🙏

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u/corpsemaggot_ Jul 01 '22

thanks man i appreciate it. strokes suck, it sucks the life out of the person and theyre never the same after it.

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u/daqgsftwgrsshyrs Jul 01 '22

Hope you and your loved ones are doing better now

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u/corpsemaggot_ Jul 01 '22

thanks man blessings to yours

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u/hunisher1 Jul 01 '22

So sorry for your loss, man. Wishing you well.

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u/corpsemaggot_ Jul 01 '22

thanks man ❤️

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u/hunisher1 Jul 01 '22

Stay safe if you’re in the US this weekend!

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u/thefathermucker Jul 01 '22

China's covid strategy allows people to die of anything as long as it's not covid.

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u/mimicsgam Jul 01 '22

You can replace Covid with any highly contagious disease from the past 20years

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u/Mellrish221 Jul 01 '22

I mean, not like it was much better here in the states. Our for-profit hospitals were overran and overworked and people were clogging up the system so bad that... well exactly this sort of thing happened. People with non covid illnesses getting turned away even if they were potentially fatal.

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u/Beginning-Upstairs31 Jul 02 '22

Dude i get it the system sucks but it is much better. People not dieing outside of hospitals cause they haven’t taken there covid test is MUCH MUCH BETTER (in comparison)

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u/Mellrish221 Jul 02 '22

No they're just dying in their homes because they get turned away. At least they're a little more comfy before they go right? SO MUCH BETTER

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u/Ditto_D Jul 02 '22

Granted a lot of people just stayed home until it was too late knowing they wouldnt be able to afford the hospital stay.

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u/RealUglyKid Jul 01 '22

That was only in big cities, the tv lied to you. Small cities and rural areas were not over packed and overcrowded. 1/2 of everything they said was a lie

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u/wordsnerd Jul 02 '22

I've only looked into Wisconsin, but every region, including and especially rural regions, has had extended periods where ICU occupancy plateaued at 97%+ (i.e. full) as covid cases continued to spike. They were beyond capacity, sending people home who would normally be hospitalized, and shipping people around to free up space.

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u/habsmd Jul 02 '22

You didnt need a tv to show what ER and ICU capacity was at

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u/Mellrish221 Jul 02 '22

In fact, small cities in the midwest were some of the hardest hit places in america because they didn't take it remotely serious.

South dakota had as many cases any "big city" at its peak and its a much smaller population spread out over a wider area.

soooo yeah.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '22

Man shut the fuck up holy shit, trumpers are so fucking brainwashed

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u/FactsHurt1998 Jul 01 '22

How could I help a person going through this if I ever see one?

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u/ITGuyfromIA Jul 01 '22

Without medicine, you can't

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u/Valdie29 Jul 02 '22

The first 3 hours are very important if you can drive to the hospital asap with the person

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u/GameFAQsModLogic Jul 01 '22

Guessing CCP has already deemed this "fake" and censored all platforms from posting it. Fucking cunts.

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u/Wumbo0 Jul 01 '22

Well yeah the guys not shaking that much /s

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u/ZEPHlROS Jul 01 '22

I bet he's not even shaking anymore by now.

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u/humblefool_1402 Jul 01 '22

Not even waking anymore!

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u/donotgogenlty Jul 01 '22

He's full on dancing!

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u/Hot_Goal4205 Jul 01 '22

He clearly gave a thumbs up

/s

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u/UndressMyBoner Jul 01 '22

Yea, but we sure love them tikytoks.

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u/goodcommasoft Jul 01 '22

Yuuup. What cold, disgusting policies. That country is so fucked rn

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u/CoachPooPooPeePee Jul 01 '22

The guy that uploaded it probably is in the execution van right now

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u/DelusionalGorilla Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22

I don’t understand? Is everybody in on that? I can’t imagine the gobberment being omnipresent, coming around the Corner whenever you break a rule and shoot you.

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u/BurningOrangeHeaven Jul 01 '22

They just ban it from the superapps they control. Same way they ban some search terms.

Even if you search for it the results will be nothing.

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u/DelusionalGorilla Jul 01 '22

What has a superapp to do with this guy in the video? It’s a simple admission into the hospital, the gobberment isn’t at the entrance checking every entry,

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u/millionairebif Jul 01 '22

You replied to a post that said

Guessing CCP has already deemed this "fake" and censored all platforms from posting it.

which is an obvious reference to online censorship not admission lines at hospitals.

However, the "gobberrment" in China does set the COVID testing policies for hospital admissions, so what's being recorded in the video is a result of CCP "gobberment" policies.

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u/DelusionalGorilla Jul 01 '22

It’s more of a result in uncritical obedience to authority, the gobberment sets up laws for correspondence not an absolute claim on morality.

Now my question was: “how far does this surveillance go?” — under the wrong comment. How do people not bypass the law under given circumstances like every other country. And How can the gobberment exercise such control?

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u/access_secure Jul 01 '22

Welcome to China, it's true

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u/TheOGClyde Jul 02 '22

No but they'll likely keep tabs on everyone the same way the NSA does in America and if you cause too much trouble theylle come after you. The threshold for "too much trouble" in China is probably just wayyy lower than America.

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u/alexgalt Jul 01 '22

Yes everyone. The ones that do not comply get sent to prison, so the only people left are ones who comply.

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u/Laudanumium Jul 01 '22

Well, on the idea-napkin it was flawless.

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u/onlypinhead2000 Jul 01 '22

Centralization is bad overall.

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u/burlap_bag Jul 01 '22

Centralization means dumb rules don’t get reversed.

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u/Unknown35746i Jul 01 '22

Oh so thats what America is /s.

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u/Str0ngTr33 Jul 01 '22

America is the kind of dumb place where thrombo teams get covid and can't come to work because they rushed to save one stroke patient that just got back from a maskless festival...

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u/thefathermucker Jul 01 '22

Centralisation is not all bad. Under a responsive, democratic, meritocratic system that truly works for the people, one that regularly throws out the idiots, you'd be saving a lot more time and money and resources than if local governments were all left to develop their own policies and solutions. Under an authoritarian, totalitarian, leninist and corrupt system where One Man's word reigns supreme such as China, it is bad.

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u/atlantisseeker74 Jul 01 '22

Under a responsive, democratic, meritocratic system that truly works for the people, one that regularly throws out the idiots

There are a lot of qualifiers in that sentence.

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u/thefathermucker Jul 01 '22

Which is the whole point. Centralisation is not all good, not all bad. Neither is decentralisation.

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u/DerErlking Jul 01 '22

Mob rule and autocracy have more in common than you seem to realize.

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u/thefathermucker Jul 01 '22

If you think decentralised systems cannot be just as corrupt, you are sorely mistaken.

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u/menastudies Jul 01 '22

Where has that fairy tale ever worked? Especially in huge countries like China

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u/Kat-Shaw Jul 01 '22

Almost everywhere?

Without centralisation modern militaries wouldn't be able to exist. Legal systems would fall apart due to lack of precedent and clarity, and economies would disintegrate due to no uniform trade laws or standards. Hell one great example is the power grid, before it was centralised Britain has 12+ plugs, you could move just to the next city and a completely different plug was used then if one region had too much demand it would black out and fail because its system was remote.

This is what happened to Texas, they refused to centralise their power grid with the rest of the USA and then when their badly maintained infrastructure collapsed it all went down and costs skyrocketed.

I feel like people on this sub think that centralisation is some weird "commie" thing and not the reality which is that it's a perfectly normal process that every country uses.

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u/thefathermucker Jul 01 '22

In the case of the pandemic, America's libertarian approach where each state does their own thing, was nothing short of disastrous. You had hundreds of thousands of deaths that could have been avoided.

Australia, New Zealand, Taiwan and Singapore all had a very centralised approach to managing the pandemic - decisive, effective, science-led management with clear communications. All that saved lives.

But yes, keep up with your fairytale that the American approach is the best.

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u/FieelChannel Jul 01 '22

China Leninist? Lmao I'm dying

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u/Existing365Chocolate Jul 01 '22

Not really

Maybe in 2020 it was

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u/MurderMag Jul 01 '22

I'm surprised they didn't make the old guy fill out the paperwork...

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u/EZcheezy Jul 01 '22

That’s what they did to my wife when she was in labor and screaming in pain here in the US.

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u/MrMerryweather56 Jul 01 '22

Better stacked with debt in the US than dead in China

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u/Star_Duke Jul 01 '22

Better to have a bit of decency like in Europe

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u/papasitopapi Jul 01 '22 Silver Helpful Snek

Follow up: he's fine

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u/DonOdini Jul 01 '22

you little shit

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u/Joshin_Around Jul 01 '22

You sir… take my upvote and get out.

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u/BlazingLazers69 Jul 01 '22

Holy fuck. Dark as hell, but I laughed. What else can I do?

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u/dr_kingschultz Jul 01 '22

You motherfucker

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u/SuchSalad4 Jul 01 '22

Burst into laughter when I clicked on that, hahaa.

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u/For_Valhalla15 Jul 01 '22

I hate you for making me laught this hard

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u/burlap_bag Jul 01 '22

“This is going on worldstar give a thumbs up. You’ll be famous”

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u/thefathermucker Jul 01 '22

If I had to die at the hands of these heartless imbeciles in such an indignified manner, I too would want my video to go viral so I can take these fuckers down with me to the grave.

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u/burlap_bag Jul 01 '22

Lol. I would go down sarcastic and swinging too.

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u/jrt444 Jul 02 '22

I’m no doctor but I believe this is a seizure not a stroke.

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u/Ok-Math-3577 Jul 01 '22

Makes America not look like the biggest piece of shit today. Something new.

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u/thefathermucker Jul 01 '22

As I’m neither Chinese nor American, I can speak with some objectivity here. Both are shit in their own unique ways but if I really had to choose, I’d rather deal with American shit. At least your vote means something.

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u/number31388 Jul 01 '22

For now.

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u/thefathermucker Jul 01 '22

For as long as China does not give its people the power to vote, America will always be better.

"Democracy is the worst form of government – except for all the others that have been tried." - Winston Churchill

People vote with their feet. In spite of America's dysfunctional and corrupt politics, you have no shortage of people wanting to become American citizens. The same really cannot be said of China.

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u/SuchSalad4 Jul 01 '22

The supreme court would like to have a word with you.

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u/hyperbolic_retort Jul 01 '22

I don't think you understand what the supreme court is doing...

They're taking away rights from government agencies that were not put in place by elected processes.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '22

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u/hyperbolic_retort Jul 01 '22

They're chipping away at rights that weren't democratically decided. That's their point.

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u/DerErlking Jul 01 '22

Yeah, they've been working to undo precedents legislating from the bench and, in turn, return power to the voters who can actually directly control the members of the legislative branch.

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u/hehepoopedmepants Jul 01 '22

What supreme court is doing is wrong, but it's not the same iasue.

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u/stardustsuperwizard Jul 01 '22

SCOTUS is ruling right now on a case which essentially would let states completely control their electoral process, allow them to put in the electors that they want instead of following the will of the people, and gerrymander even more freely.

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u/DerErlking Jul 01 '22

Presently, electors are beholden to no one.

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u/thefathermucker Jul 01 '22
  1. Any country that wilfully dismantles its own democratic institutions is only digging its own grave.
  2. We all deserve the government we get.
  3. Shit happens because we - the voters - allowed it to happen.

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u/stardustsuperwizard Jul 01 '22

I think you overestimate the power of voting in the US. Those in power right now have the means to stop or fight back against most of this, and there's historical precedent. But they don't want to be as bullish as their opposition.

And they actively fight against their voters when they try to get more bullish people in (establishment puts their money and power behind establishment candidates instead of more popular candidates)

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u/thefathermucker Jul 01 '22

I am well aware of how useless my vote feels like. But having lived in China for close to two decades, I can tell you how much more empowering it is to have a vote over no vote.

All I'm trying to say is, crap on your own country if you like, but don't ever think that the Chinese are better, because they're the ones lining up to take your citizenship and not you theirs.

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u/i0datamonster Jul 01 '22

Honestly in the long game this will work out. The anarchists that have taken over the Republican party are doomed to fail.

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u/-BADmood Jul 01 '22

Yh me to at least America will fix you up first then give you a massive bill afterwards.

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u/SpaceXBlaze Jul 01 '22

I beg to differ.

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u/thefathermucker Jul 01 '22

Feel free to move to China to prove your point.

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u/hyperbolic_retort Jul 01 '22

The tv tells them everyday that America is the worst country in the history of the world, and they all believe it. They haven't seen anything for themselves though.

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u/one_up_onedown Jul 02 '22

And we are told China and Russia are the worst countries in the world so?

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u/hyperbolic_retort Jul 02 '22 edited Jul 02 '22

Every country is engaging in propaganda to make their non-allies look as bad as possible. Including us.

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u/mastercafe2 Jul 01 '22

As I’m neither Chinese nor American, I can speak with some objectivity here. Both are shit in their own unique ways but if I really had to choose, I’d rather deal with American shit. At least your vote means something.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/voy1vd/chinas_inhumane_pandemic_rules_mean_patients_must/iegtvws

For the record, I'm ethnic Chinese, speak the language at a near native level, and have spent close to two decades in China.

I do not believe that their numbers are real. Scientists in Hong Kong and elsewhere also do not believe the numbers to be real. Are they sinophobic too?

DUMBASS.

Lol what a big fat liar. This guy can't even get his story straight on the same post. The cia is definitely going to withhold your pay today

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u/thefathermucker Jul 01 '22

Anybody reading would understand I’m ethnic Chinese. Not a Chinese national. What’s so difficult to understand about this?

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u/USA_IS_A_HOAX Jul 01 '22

Its over for you bro they are gonna send you to Guantanamo bay for messing up your story LOL

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u/Vinlandien Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 02 '22

At least your vote means something.

Heh, good one.

The US has a deeply flawed 2 party system and a horribly corrupt system of gerrymandering every district to cheat their way to victory.

Even when you vote blue, the red’s can still strip you of your rights because nobody is held accountable and the rich get what they want.

The only thing that makes the US better than China is that human rights and freedoms are still protected by the law(just not always by law enforcement)

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u/thefathermucker Jul 01 '22

I am tired of repeating myself, but read my other comments in this thread.

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u/juanjung Jul 01 '22

The anti China post of the day. Good job in the call center.

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u/Daddbigd Jul 02 '22

Disgusting

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u/Dazzling-Talk3520 Jul 02 '22

(In Paula Abdul's voice)

"I take 2 great leaps forward, and 3 great steps back, This is what happens because Autocracy is cracked"

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u/LateNighCoffe Jul 02 '22

It's China. Humans Rights are not a thing in that country.

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u/ChumplingChamp Jul 01 '22

he gave a thumbs up he's fine

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u/WheredoesithurtRA Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22

There are rapid tests for COVID that don't take very long to see the results.

We don't actually know what's happening here or with the guy himself other than what's mentioned in the title

That is not the atypical symptoms of a stroke/stroke victim. Does look like he's seizing but it also looks like it's tremors and he could very well have Parkinson's or be an Alzheimer/Dementia's patient or on meds that has tremors as a side effect (such as long term use of anti-psychotic meds).

If he did just suffer a recent stroke then he's already at the hospital and this would be also be standard protocol here even in the US for people coming through the emergency room and receiving treatment. You're tested before admission or during if admitted to a bed. Not sure what OP expects to be done in the few moments that the "precious time" was used while doing a covid swab before taking them in.

This is probably a post to just rile people up.

No I'm not defending China.

Currently work as a RN.

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u/Jynx2501 Jul 01 '22

No I'm not defending China

Thats exactly what a Russian Troll account would say!

/s

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u/thefathermucker Jul 01 '22
  1. China-made rapid tests have a very high false positivity/negativity rate, so it's all PCR.
  2. China believes in having China-made everything in the fight against covid, from vaccines to tests, so don't ask me why they don't have foreign tests. That's another question for another day.
  3. What's said in the video is cerebral infarction aka ischemic stroke. Of course we don't know what comorbidities the patient has and we can't tell from the video.
  4. The point remains: Covid testing before hospital admission is a hard rule now. Many patients have been turned away at the door. Pregnant women have delivered babies and elderly people have died literally at the hospital doorstep.

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u/circumtopia Jul 01 '22

Lmao what the fuck? Here in Canada we're using Chinese made rapid tests. They work the same as non chinese ones.

Stroke doesn't make you shake like a mother fuker. It's called epilepsy. Fucking ignorance.

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u/WheredoesithurtRA Jul 01 '22

China-made rapid tests have a very high false positivity/negativity rate, so it's all PCR.

I have no idea what kind of tests they use or implement. Most facilities in the US and I'm going to make a wild assumption here, most countries will typically swab and proceed forward so they can have some idea on whether or not they need to use more or less serious precautions with handling the patient. I assume, again, that in China that most if not all patients are being treated with contact precautions based on how aggressive they seem to handle this.

I'd need to double check but I'm pretty sure that we, in the US, were sent China-made rapid tests for home use as well. We use them in hospitals too. There's no propaganda/conspiracy amongst healthcare entities here, mostly.

China believes in having China-made everything in the fight against covid, from vaccines to tests, so don't ask me why they don't have foreign tests. That's another question for another day.

What does this have to do with anything? I didn't mention that at all.

What's said in the video is cerebral infarction aka ischemic stroke. Of course we don't know what comorbidities the patient has and we can't tell from the video.

None of what is seen in the video aligns with an ischemic stroke. Is it coming from the family member or a medical professional? You're not going to have doctors doing these field tests either so those persons doing the testing very likely have no authority or experience in diagnosing it there.

The point remains: Covid testing before hospital admission is a hard rule now. Many patients have been turned away at the door. Pregnant women have delivered babies and elderly people have died literally at the hospital doorstep.

Do you have a healthcare background? Because I don't understand why you think your point matters much here. Hospitals/facilities/entities still decide their own protocol.

I was just in South Korea last month and it's the same process there. You get tested before being able to get seen or treated at the hospital. My wife got allergy testing and labs done (we took advantage of their awesome healthcare system while there). Very similar process in the US too. We had to get tested before boarding a flight, after landing and before departing while traveling between the US-Canada-South Korea flights.

Pregnant women have delivered babies and elderly people have died literally at the hospital doorstep.

That sounds brutal. Where can I read about that? I saw that video posted here of that pregnant woman but there wasn't a lot of info on that.

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u/xspance Jul 01 '22

Don’t say anything bad the CCP bots will get your acct banned

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u/Dark-All-Day Jul 02 '22

This literally doesn't happen you people are insane

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u/johnnychan81 Jul 01 '22

Reddit is very anti China yet people somehow still like to pretend that anti Chinese posts will get you in trouble

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u/Dark-All-Day Jul 02 '22

Redditors have some of the biggest persecution complexes I've ever come across.

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u/frogmanfrompond Jul 01 '22

It’s a victim complex. They also claim this site is Anti-American when posts saying “I’m gonna get downvoted but I love America” get thousands up upvotes.

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u/simmeh024 Jul 01 '22

Is you have family living there, it will sure get you in trouble.

Many families have been harrased when someone in a different country tweets something negative. Same goes for reddit, FB, tiktok, etc.

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u/ArgentinaCanIntoEuro Jul 01 '22

Lol yeah sure, source?

Redditoids love to make up bullshit 1984 stories.

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u/fumoking Jul 01 '22

"that's so much worse than OUR inhumane policies whew now I feel better about being an American because at least I was allowed to go bankrupt by entering a hospital right away instead of waiting. We have freedom to drive miles and miles from our rural town to the nearest private hospital and overwhelm it's capacity which was kept as low as possible to make it more profitable." Glass houses guys haha

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u/MilesTeg831 Jul 01 '22

We can point out the flaws in all system. But yeah given the option I’d probably go into debt before dying or being paralyzed. I’m sure you’d be the same but maybe not.

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u/Eastern-Breadfruit72 Jul 01 '22

I need factual evidence first.

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u/allinclusivesadism Jul 01 '22

He will probably get negative social points for taking the day off to have his stroke.

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u/13igTyme Jul 01 '22

Getting the results back before admission is pretty standard, even before Covid. You can still be seen in the ED, but for admits, patient flow/logistics needs to know what kind of accommodations the patient needs in a room.

Do they need a negative pressure room? Cardiac drip unit? Room close to the nurses station? Are they a psych patient? And much more.

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u/yupuhoh Jul 01 '22

And I thought Americas healthcare sucked

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u/botchedlobotamy Jul 01 '22

no no no teenage internet communists have assured me nothing like this happens in glorious people's republic of china.

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u/A55per Jul 01 '22

Fuck the CCP

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u/Deep_Tip3060 Jul 01 '22

I wonder which country has had more Covid deaths ? China or the USA. 🤔

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u/thefathermucker Jul 01 '22

I didn’t say anything about the US in this post and I’m not American.

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u/Deep_Tip3060 Jul 01 '22

Okay well my question still stands. Which country do you think has had less Covid deaths ? USA or China?

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u/thefathermucker Jul 01 '22

The US of course. But if you believe China has as few covid deaths as they reported I have a bridge to sell you.

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u/Deep_Tip3060 Jul 01 '22

Hahaha. You people are all the same. How can we trust the numbers out of China ? Your sinophobia is showing.

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u/thefathermucker Jul 01 '22

For the record, I'm ethnic Chinese, speak the language at a near native level, and have spent close to two decades in China.

I do not believe that their numbers are real. Scientists in Hong Kong and elsewhere also do not believe the numbers to be real. Are they sinophobic too?

DUMBASS.

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u/mastercafe2 Jul 01 '22

For the record, I'm ethnic Chinese, speak the language at a near native level, and have spent close to two decades in China.

I do not believe that their numbers are real. Scientists in Hong Kong and elsewhere also do not believe the numbers to be real. Are they sinophobic too?

DUMBASS.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/voy1vd/chinas_inhumane_pandemic_rules_mean_patients_must/iefwzef

As I’m neither Chinese nor American, I can speak with some objectivity here. Both are shit in their own unique ways but if I really had to choose, I’d rather deal with American shit. At least your vote means something.

What a big fat liar. The cia should withhold your pay for the day

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u/Deep_Tip3060 Jul 01 '22

Lemme guess your obsessed with the CCP ?

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u/nitrodragon546 Jul 01 '22

You seem pretty obsessed with defending the people who pretend this never happened https://imgur.com/a/q8ZIS

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u/bonuggets1492 Jul 01 '22

Communism at its finest.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '22

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u/thefathermucker Jul 01 '22

Maybe you'd like to go to Tiananmen Square and shout loudly at the top of your lungs that China isn't a communist country. See what they'd do to you.

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u/Baba-Vanga Jul 02 '22

What would they do to me?

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u/MetallGecko Jul 01 '22

I heard only good things will happen /s

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u/atlantisseeker74 Jul 01 '22

Imagine being China where COVID originated and still doing all of this nonsense related to it?

Unreal, what a bunch of dunces the CCP are.

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u/ttyrondonlongjohn Jul 01 '22

Inhumane covid rules that have killed less people than covid has killed in Amwrica with a population over double the size, yeah I'll take those "inhumane" rules thanks.

I also think it's very funny redditors think reddit is full of chinese propaganda when really it's full of shit like this.

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u/DegenCommentator Jul 01 '22

Surely there are other options than the two worst examples.

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u/Ashenox Jul 01 '22

They're a CCP shill so you won't get much out of them.

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u/ttyrondonlongjohn Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22

Out of all countries in the world China, a nation with only just over 5,000 covid deaths, is on par for being as bad as the US with over 1 million (1,000,000)? I think you may need to take a mathematics course my friend.

inb4: everything out of China is a lie but the US state department always gives facts.

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u/thefathermucker Jul 01 '22

If you believe Chinese statistics, I have a bridge to sell you.

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u/DegenCommentator Jul 01 '22

It doesn't matter if other social issues are being created due to a high amount of authoritarianism.

The only number you're looking at is the number of Covid deaths. But how many deaths have occurred because people are being so restricted and limited in their daily activities?

How many people are suffering in mental health decline due to being constantly locked down and confined to their homes by the state?

How has their economy suffered from a lack of work force? How many workers are suffering because they're missing paychecks?

There's a lot to look at. Far more than just the number of deaths, even assuming that is accurate.

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u/thefathermucker Jul 01 '22

I was in China through the start of this pandemic. China vs America is a false choice. These aren't the only two countries on the face of this planet. There are a great many countries that have performed better than both America and China in this pandemic.

If you really mean what you say, you should move to China right now and see if you can live through their strict zero covid rules. I have been there and I lived to tell the tale.

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u/ttyrondonlongjohn Jul 01 '22

Give me the money for the plane ticket and I will bitch, put up or shut up.

Notice how you say you've lived to tell the tale, while over a million people in the USA have not. How stupid are you people.

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u/thefathermucker Jul 01 '22

Yes. If you read my other comments on this thread, America has done terribly on covid and way more people died unnecessarily. But I fortunately do not come from America so that is not my locus of reference.

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u/atlantisseeker74 Jul 01 '22

Give me money

Lol, try earning it? Lazy.

How stupid are you people.

Imagine calling someone else stupid and not knowing the basics of punctuation lol. Question marks are a thing you realize?

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u/thefathermucker Jul 01 '22

He absolutely sounds like a loser who hasn't been anywhere. Still has the cheek to be so wilfully naive about what China is.

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u/Ashenox Jul 01 '22

That I would doubt. We all should have learned by now that anything coming out of China is mostly a lie.

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u/BaconPersuasion Jul 01 '22

How can an entire country be collectively that stupid?

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u/USockPuppeteer Jul 01 '22

You live in america. Just look around and you’ll have your answer

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u/BaconPersuasion Jul 02 '22

I do?

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u/BaconPersuasion Jul 02 '22

Such a distant memory living in the US. I almost forgot that life.

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u/USockPuppeteer Jul 02 '22

That must be the collective stupidity part

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u/thefathermucker Jul 01 '22

“In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations, and epochs, it is the rule." Friedrich Nietzsche

I'm not sure which country you're from, but I'm sure it's as stupid in different ways.

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u/Aurock75 Jul 01 '22

America and China fighting for who can be the worst country on Earth.

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u/hyperbolic_retort Jul 01 '22

But China WILL and DOES prevent far more covid deaths than America. I thought such restrictions were a good thing? I thought we were making sacrifices to save grandma?

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u/distinguishedmonbebe Jul 04 '22

For all their flaws, if you think China and the United States are the worst countries in the world then you are incredibly ignorant.

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u/HallzBallz86 Jul 01 '22

Hell yeah but America sucks and all that stuff

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u/swsgamer19 Jul 01 '22

How do we know this guy is suffering from covid? Can anyone translate what they are saying in the video?

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u/T-I-E-Sama Jul 01 '22

China doesn't have isolation rooms? I feel like there is more to this story.

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u/GullyGreyHeart Jul 01 '22

so now this is inhumane? When this rule was applied in some countries everyone was fine and was even supporting it

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u/thefathermucker Jul 01 '22

You are being completely ridiculous. I haven't seen any other country apart from China that literally turns away sick people at the doorstep.

In any case, government policy at the very start of a new pandemic is very different from how it should be three years in.

We were dealing with a completely virus that was much more fatal and infectious than SARS and we didn't know much about it, so governments had to be a lot more forceful in taking measures to flatten the curve.

At this point in the pandemic, we have all the different diagnostic tools available, vaccines and treatment options. So the Chinese model so far into the pandemic no longer makes sense. Indeed the WHO has called it "unsustainable".

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u/Firm_Hedgehog_4902 Jul 01 '22

I feel sorry for the people in China…

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u/secretmuffinsauce Jul 01 '22

Very hard to watch this

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u/Traderwannabee Jul 01 '22

But it takes 15 min to see if the COVid line forms in the test.. 15 min this guy didn’t have

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u/shaneylaney Jul 01 '22

All this in the name of Zero Covid? God, this is inhumane and disgusting.

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u/katiel0429 Jul 01 '22

Zero Covid TM

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u/WreckedEmRanger Jul 01 '22

Soon coming to America. Thanks trump

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u/patriarchgoldstien Jul 01 '22

Ah socialized medicine.

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u/thefathermucker Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22

There are a great many countries with socialised medicine that perform better than the United States on all healthcare related metrics, but by all means, feel free to go on thinking you have the best system.

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u/raiding_party Jul 01 '22

Throwback to 2020 when reddit was literally giving China a handjob over their pandemic handling. Lol

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u/Whatsthatnoise3 Jul 01 '22

Reddit was cheering these things in mid 2020.

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u/donotgogenlty Jul 01 '22

But he gave thumbs up, was he being sarcastic?

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '22

this is so sad