r/JusticeServed 9 Nov 22 '22

U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday declined to block Treasury Department from turning over years of former President Donald Trump's tax returns to the House Ways and Means Committee, clearing the way for Democrats to obtain the records weeks before Republicans take control of the House in January Courtroom Justice

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-trump-tax-returns-house-ways-and-means-committee-democrats/
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u/SexyDoorDasherDude 5 Dec 01 '22

Totally insane considering the court had no power to block the tax returns to begin with.

They even waited until after the election to do it. Totally corrupted court.

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u/Agile_Juggernaut683 0 Nov 26 '22

When someone tries so hard to hide something...

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u/wakanda_banana 1 Nov 23 '22

Now do an investigation on the 90 billion sent over to the Ukraine

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u/Molire 9 Nov 23 '22 edited Nov 23 '22

What about the $50.2 billion worth of critical supplies that the United States sent to Allied nations, after accounting for goods transferred to foreign governments, shipping services, and other Lend-Lease charges over the fiscal period from 11 Mar 1941 to 31 Mar 1951.

After adjusting for inflation, US $50.2 billion in March 1951 is equivalent to nearly US $580 billion ($579.85 billion) in October 2022, or more than one-half of a trillion dollars.


Office of the Chief of Military History - Department of the Army, Washington, D.C., pdf file, p. 5, footnote 2/: "The total value of lend-lease aid including goods transferred to foreign governments, shipping services and other lend-lease charges was $50,200,000,000 for the period ending 31 March 1951 according to the Thirty-Second Report to Congress on Lend-Lease Operations, Appendix 1 ( b ), which was transmitted by the President on 3 October 1951."

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u/TrevorEnterprises 9 Nov 23 '22

There were quite some hoops needed for this train of thought

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u/badcoffee 4 Nov 25 '22

Flag on the play for mixing metaphors, but I'll allow for the hilarious image a train flying through hoops.

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u/Molire 9 Nov 23 '22

Serious question about American culture: Are hoops the same thing as biscuits filled with LSD, methamphetamine, heroin, ecstasy, opium, and/or fentanyl that are eaten by some people in the US?

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u/Big_Trees 7 Nov 24 '22

My goodness you're spicy.

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u/phome83 C Nov 23 '22

The problem is that, even when they do finally get publicized, it won't matter to his worshipers.

I understand the importance of going this far to get them released, but it won't affect him negatively at all sadly.

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u/SirGunther 9 Nov 23 '22

While I can appreciate the bleak cynical viewpoint you've laid out for us, if there is a way for me, or anyone to make sure that it does affect him negatively, I'm all in.

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u/ebai4556 7 Nov 23 '22

“Declined to block” there’s a word for not not allowing something… it’s called “allowed”

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u/Molire 9 Nov 23 '22

U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts prefers to use the word vacated.

If one digs deeper beneath the front page of the United States Supreme Court web site, one can find the statement by Chief Justice John Roberts on Nov. 22, 2022, that is buried beneath 4 layers and is inconspicuously named Miscellaneous Order:

Supreme Court of the United States> Case Documents > Orders of the Court > Orders of the Court - Term Year 2022 > 11/22/22 Miscellaneous Order:

 

(ORDER LIST: 598 U.S.)

          TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 22, 2022  

            ORDER IN PENDING CASE  

22A362 TRUMP, DONALD J., ET AL. V. COMM. ON WAYS AND MEANS, ET AL.

The application for stay of the mandate presented to The Chief Justice and by him referred to the Court is denied. The order heretofore entered by The Chief Justice is vacated.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '22

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u/Molire 9 Nov 24 '22

Yes. That's good.

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u/Sycraft-fu 5 Nov 23 '22

More accurate in this case, despite the clunky wording. Trump's lawyers made an emergency appeal asking them to block it temporarily and to then hear a case about it. They decided not to block it, without comment. So they didn't actually rule and say "it is allowed," they just didn't do anything to block it.

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u/An_Anonymous_Acc A Nov 23 '22

You have to consider that they were asked to block by the GOP. So they declined to block it.

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u/yankuniz 6 Nov 23 '22

That’s not incorrect

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u/TheOtherAvaz 9 Nov 23 '22

You aren't wrong.

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u/Mondo-Butter-21 3 Nov 23 '22

watch out everyone qanon/trump supporters are finna out themselves in the comments

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u/Drunkenly_Responding 9 Nov 23 '22

From what I've seen they aren't sending their best.

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u/Loudergood 8 Nov 23 '22

No, that's the best they've got.

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u/StevieGreenwood420 2 Nov 23 '22

Lol just wait till they start looking at other presidents’ tax returns. People think it’s getting Trump. Its setting precedent to look into others

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u/GoAwayStupidAI 6 Nov 24 '22

You mean these?

https://www.taxnotes.com/presidential-tax-returns

Go ahead. Analyze them. Let's see you follow up. Can you even read tax returns? Or are numbers scary?

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u/Molire 9 Nov 23 '22

Which others?

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u/GoAwayStupidAI 6 Nov 24 '22

They both released their tax returns prior to holding the office. Trump is first major-party U.S. presidential candidate or president since 1976 to not release their returns.

You can, if you actually believed this, analyze both Obama and Clinton's returns right now. But you won't because believe a lie is easier than facing reality.

https://www.taxnotes.com/presidential-tax-returns

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u/GoAwayStupidAI 6 Nov 24 '22

Lol! Prove those are false. You made the claim. Do it super genius

(Also I like the moving goal posts )

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u/GoAwayStupidAI 6 Nov 25 '22

Wait.. you think Obama spent that money himself? Lol!

Keep moving the goalposts. Definitely easier than facing reality!

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u/Paranatural A Nov 23 '22

Creatures like you hate the light of truth, don't you?

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u/JazzHandsNinja42 8 Nov 23 '22

Huh? Every POTUS since Nixon has voluntarily shown theirs…except for Don. Have you been anywhere outside of Parler?

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u/cptnpiccard A Nov 23 '22

Don't feed the trolls man...

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u/Tsunamiog 6 Nov 23 '22

Pretty sure most other presidents tax returns are public already but ok

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u/StevieGreenwood420 2 Nov 23 '22

Orange man bad brigade responds very quickly lol

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u/sonofzeal 6 Nov 25 '22

It'd be great to break away from all the partisanship and evaluate claims fairly and impartially.

In this case though, every other POTUS from the last 40 years has their tax returns public, so insinuating they've got things to hide there kinda falls flat. And when challenged on that, rather than admitting the point or clarifying in some way, you handwave any inconvenient facts as partisan mob mentality.

I get that it's unpleasant being jumped all over when you post something ignorant, but facts don't care about your feelings.

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u/S1mplejax 8 Nov 23 '22

I noticed you didn’t acknowledge how entirely false your original comment was. That’s how grown ups usually handle new information. “Oh, I didn’t realize that. Thanks for clearing that up.”

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u/yankuniz 6 Nov 23 '22 edited Nov 23 '22

Or your statement is illogical nonsense which was quickly recognized

Edit: I see now that I mistakenly responded to you instead of SteveGreenwood and because if this my comments have been taken entirely out of context

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u/S1mplejax 8 Nov 23 '22 edited Nov 23 '22

Lol “quickly recognized by my superior intellect” is what I imagine you wanted to say there. Also, you should read about writing in the active vs passive voice. Your comment reads poorly. Just another bit of free advice there bud.

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u/yankuniz 6 Nov 23 '22

Easily recognized by anyone of average intellect. You maybe right about active/passive but I am skeptical. How should I have written it to be grammatically correct?

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u/Loudergood 8 Nov 23 '22

I mean, yeah he is.

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u/Shlocktroffit A Nov 23 '22

It's the normal response to idiotic comments, not the orange man brigade.

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u/GoAwayStupidAI 6 Nov 25 '22

Ah they gotta believe there is some coordinated "brigade". The fact that far more people than the magats independently conclude the guy is a fuckhead is an impossible reality for them. Which is probably why they react so strongly to contrary evidence.

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u/nnnm_33 7 Nov 23 '22

Everyone gonna be real quiet about this when there isn’t anything there… oh wait yeah forgot nobody cares when they’re repeatedly dead wrong about trump

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u/GoAwayStupidAI 6 Nov 24 '22

Which must be why he was so willing to release them. Nothing to hide right?

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u/nnnm_33 7 Nov 25 '22

That’s actually just very immature reasoning.

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u/sonofzeal 6 Nov 25 '22

Worked for every other president in my lifetime though. And he did promise it on the campaign trail. Is it so wrong to hold a man to keep his word?

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u/nnnm_33 7 Nov 25 '22

Are you actually trolling?

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u/Paranatural A Nov 23 '22

Don't you ever get tired of being a brainwashed slave?

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '22

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u/nnnm_33 7 Nov 24 '22

Lol care to give an example?

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u/Taftimus A Nov 23 '22

Keep sucking Trump's dick, he definitely cares about you.

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u/yankuniz 6 Nov 23 '22

This is such an odd retort

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u/c3l77 6 Nov 23 '22

So wtf is he fighting so hard to keep them secret? Connecting dots and thinking logically really isn't in your wheelhouse hey.

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u/bert4925 6 Nov 23 '22 edited Nov 24 '22

Let the downvotes begin

Edit: I knew it! Im a genius!

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u/GoAwayStupidAI 6 Nov 25 '22

Knowingly saying stupid shit doesn't make you a genius. Thinking that it does, however, is strong evidence to the contrary ;)

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u/bert4925 6 Nov 25 '22

What stupid shit was said by me? 😂🤣 Reddit hive-mind is hilarious

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u/w4lt3r_s0bch4k 7 Nov 23 '22

That committee doesn't even need a reason to see people's tax returns, it's their job. The fact that this was stalled for so long only further points to how 'the system' breaks when people have enough money to gum up the works.

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u/Molire 9 Nov 23 '22 edited Nov 24 '22

The fact that this was stalled for so long only further points to how 'the system' breaks when people have enough money to gum up the works.

The fact that this was stalled for so long only further points to how part of 'the system' broke when orange jesus was president.

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u/dirtybird971 7 Nov 23 '22

Not bad...and only 7 years later! JFC.

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u/2kids2adults 8 Nov 23 '22

About time! Doubt they'll see anything before the republicans take the house. I don't believe trump will comply with anything. He hasn't been shown that he has to yet. Dude believes he is above every law.

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u/MenuBar 9 Nov 23 '22

Trump is the white Darrel Brooks.

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u/eperker 7 Nov 23 '22

Trump doesn’t have to comply. The returns come directly from the Treasury Department.

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u/Molire 9 Nov 23 '22

It's not up to orange jesus. The Treasury Department has his tax returns. Under U.S. law, when the House Ways & Means Committee requests to see the tax returns of a U.S. person, the Treasury Department is required under U.S. law to deliver those tax returns to the House Ways & Means Committee.

Washington — The Supreme Court on Tuesday declined to block the Treasury Department from turning over several years of former President Donald Trump's tax returns to the House Ways and Means Committee, clearing the way for Democrats to obtain the records weeks before Republicans take control of the House in January.

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u/SurlyRed A Nov 23 '22

The number of Trumpists still working in the Treasury Department is greater than zero.

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u/Molire 9 Nov 23 '22

Arguably, the numbers of them are few among the total workforce of 96,145 employees (in 2021, p. 4) at the U.S. Department of the Treasury, who must pass strict background checks and security clearances before they can work for the U.S. government, and they are not felons and have not been convicted and sentenced to jail or prison for committing a crime, in part because they are smart, educated, highly-trained, and law-abiding professionals who support the U.S. Constitution and leave any politics at home before they report to work.

On the other hand, the number of Trumpists who have been arrested and charged and will be or have been sentenced to jail or sentenced to years in a Federal Bureau of Prisons inmate prison facility is much greater than zero, and some who have been convicted and predictably will be sentenced to jail or prison over the coming hours, days, weeks, months, and perhaps years, can be seen in the images, screenshots, and videos of many of them at the FBI web site and the Sedition Hunters web site.

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u/2kids2adults 8 Nov 23 '22

Here’s hoping.

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u/SaKred2015 7 Nov 23 '22

ELI5: why are they still looking to view his tax returns?

Not asking for any sides, just curious

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u/Molire 9 Nov 23 '22 edited Nov 23 '22

“Congress, as a co-equal branch of government, has a duty to conduct oversight of departments and officials. The Ways and Means Committee in particular has a responsibility to conduct oversight of our voluntary Federal tax system and determine how Americans – including those elected to our highest office – are complying with those laws. It is also our duty to evaluate the operation of the Internal Revenue Service in its administration and enforcement of the tax laws.

House Ways & Means Committee Chairman Richard Neal Statement [1 page] on Requesting President Trump’s Tax Returns, April 3, 2019: https://waysandmeans.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/neal-statement-requesting-president-trump-s-tax-returns

Written request (2 pages) from House Ways & Means Committee Chairman Richard Neal to Internal Revenue Service (IRS) Commissioner Charles Rettig for six years of President Donald J. Trump’s personal and business tax returns, April 3, 2019: https://waysandmeans.house.gov/sites/democrats.waysandmeans.house.gov/files/documents/Neal%20Letter%20to%20Rettig%20%28signed%29%20-%202019.04.03.pdf

The U.S. House Ways & Means Committee wants to confirm "whether the IRS is carrying out its responsibilities", including the federal law that requires the IRS to audit the tax returns of sitting U.S. presidents and whether the IRS enforces Federal tax laws against a president.

The committee wants to see Trump's tax returns to confirm whether the IRS audited those returns when Trump was in office and whether the IRS enforced Federal tax laws against Trump.

When he was in office, Trump at first repeatedly promised publicly on television and on Twitter he would soon release his tax returns to the American public, but later he began repeatedly stating publicly countless times on television and on Twitter he could not release his tax returns to the public because the IRS was auditing his returns on each of the 1,462 days he was in office for 4 years, from Jan. 20, 2017, to Jan. 20, 2021.

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u/Allicanbisme 1 Nov 23 '22

Because they are criminals too..

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u/krystalBaltimore 9 Nov 23 '22

How? Didn't he demand a copy of Obamas birth certificate? Every single president since Nixon has turned over their tax info, why is he exempt?

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u/Allicanbisme 1 Nov 23 '22

He's not..but they are all political criminal scum regardless

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u/r4g4 7 Nov 23 '22

*including nixon

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u/kaazir 9 Nov 23 '22

Ages ago there were questions as to if he has a lot of foreign debt or deals with foreign entities that may make him show favoritism to those countries in exchange for financial forgiveness.

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u/TangoInUniform 3 Nov 23 '22

When you're the first president to not disclose your tax returns in like 50 years, something is obviously off.

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u/MACCRACKIN 5 Nov 23 '22 edited Nov 23 '22

Yep, Trump Something's up with That Huh @! Soon as we see his returns as President of never taking take a Dime of Governments Taxpayers Money.

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u/yesyoucantouchthat 6 Nov 23 '22

Is this Trump’s burner account or something? The use of capital letters looks a lot like Trump’s tweets

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u/JazzHandsNinja42 8 Nov 23 '22

Oh honey. He’s taken a shit ton of tax payer dollars. We paid $141,000,000.00 for just his golf trips during his four year presidency. We’ve also paid for all his corporate welfare. It’s uglier than ugly, love.

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u/MACCRACKIN 5 Nov 23 '22

Golf Trips, who the hell never golf's in last twenty years. I seem to recall wedding party was kicked off the course in 2012 or so.

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u/JazzHandsNinja42 8 Nov 23 '22

Golfing vs golfing to the tune of $141,000,000.00; odd you’d see no problem with that price tag.

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u/hawksdiesel 8 Nov 23 '22

It should be mandatory to show your tax returns for any gov't position...

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u/Teejus_Christ 6 Nov 23 '22 edited Nov 23 '22

Why is that?

Edit Apologies everyone, I read the parent comment as “You shouldn’t have to show your tax return”. Was hoping to hear the logic behind that.

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u/pauly13771377 B Nov 23 '22 edited Nov 23 '22

Same reason FBI applicants can be denied a place in the academy based on thier financials. If you are in debt you can more likely to take bribes.

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u/TtoTheMo 5 Nov 23 '22

Same for social security applicants.

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u/MACCRACKIN 5 Nov 23 '22

They can also be denied to ever get in the door to begin with ~ You Mean.

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u/pauly13771377 B Nov 23 '22

Corrected and thank you

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u/Dirtgrubb 4 Nov 23 '22

The same reason I had to do a credit check and a background check to work in a warehouse. Responsibility and honesty come to mind. Why on earth would you trust someone with our economy if they don’t even have their affairs in order? You have no private life in the public eye. If they wanted to remain a private citizen and not be scrutinized, don’t run for office.

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u/Madgyver 8 Nov 23 '22

More importantly, why would we entrust someone with the economy, if they aren't even prepared to reveal taxable revenue sources?

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u/Theowlhoothoot 7 Nov 23 '22 edited Nov 23 '22

Typically for defense positions in private companies or key positions in government interests, you are require to “prove” you are not in a situation where you can be bought by foreign entities.

Companies like Raytheon won’t hire you if your debt to income is over a certain threshold or if weird banks hold your loans. Sometimes they won’t hire you if your cousin Billy got arrested for international crimes, local crimes, or trafficking. Any weak point is something that can be exploited.

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u/MFbiFL 7 Nov 23 '22

To expand on that - for clearance work you fill out a form called SF-86 where you have to disclose for the past 7 years: every address you’ve lived at and someone who knew you there, any debts that have gone to collections, any illegal or controlled substances you were not prescribed, contact with foreign citizens, foreign bank accounts, probably other stuff that I’ve forgotten. Reporting these things doesn’t necessarily disqualify you but lying about it and them finding out could. The intention, like you said, is to make sure that there’s not information that someone could use to exploit you.

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u/Theowlhoothoot 7 Nov 23 '22

Sound about right. My friend got disqualified because they just bought an expensive ass home and had too much financed.

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u/SpeakFree-200 2 Nov 23 '22

Can we just go ahead and make all politicians tax returns available to the public? If you’re going after one corrupt politician why not go after more?

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u/w4lt3r_s0bch4k 7 Nov 23 '22

I agree 100%. It's always hard to make elected officials vote to regulate themselves.

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u/PaydayJones 7 Nov 23 '22

Now would be the time. With the Republican party seemingly abandoning Trump, this would help them solidify that position.

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u/veemon657 7 Nov 23 '22

And make it so all politicians only serve a limited number of terms. They shouldn't be allowed to make a career out of it

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u/DextersDrkPassenger_ 6 Nov 23 '22

You have to set precedent.

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u/GrumpyGlasses 5 Nov 23 '22

Expect to see Trump to delay, appeal, obstruct for about 3 more weeks. Nothing else will happen this week, and the Christmas week. Doesn’t seem to be a huge challenge for Trump.

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u/No_big_whoop B Nov 23 '22

Isn’t he out of appeals at this point?

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u/CapN-Judaism 7 Nov 23 '22

Trump can essentially make an appeal anytime anything happens, but an appeal by itself wouldn’t stop production of the records. A judge would have to determine the appeal has merit and that an injunction is warranted to delay the records being handed over until the case has been heard by a higher court.

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u/Noah254 7 Nov 23 '22

Pretty sure he can’t appeal any higher than the Supreme Court, so he has no more means to delay

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u/CapN-Judaism 7 Nov 23 '22

He can’t appeal this same issue, but depending on how the appeal was taken, he may be able to continue appealing other related legal issues in the same case. He may also be able to find a new legal issue which wasn’t part of what the Supreme Court reviewed and then turn that into a new case which is also appealable.

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u/Madgyver 8 Nov 23 '22

A judge would have to determine the appeal

I think the main point here is, that delaying only works as part of a strategy, like delaying in order to exhaust the oppositions budget. But at this point, all he is doing is pissing of judges. Because what does he expect? Delay in all perpetuity?

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u/CapN-Judaism 7 Nov 23 '22

He would be expecting to delay until Republicans take control of the house in 3 weeks

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u/Madgyver 8 Nov 23 '22

Given how many people he fucked over and how many republicans are turning away from him publicly, I am not sure that will save him.

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u/CapN-Judaism 7 Nov 23 '22

Given how closely tied the GOPs image still is to Trump, there are still clear incentives for the GOP to protect him as a means of preserving themselves.

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u/Madgyver 8 Nov 23 '22

Don't know, the way they tend to spin everything into a big conspiracy and after the midterms, that where quite disappointing to them, It could be beneficial to paint him as a conman. Republicans love playing victim.

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u/CapN-Judaism 7 Nov 23 '22

Painting him as a conman would mean painting themselves as gullible. Usually, they play victim by arguing they are being persecuted or forced to do something, not by arguing they’ve been tricked.

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u/Madgyver 8 Nov 23 '22

Well, let's see how this goes. Maybe it will fizzle out quietly, maybe it wont. There has been a lot of surprises this year.

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u/cgn-38 7 Nov 23 '22

They still vote by party lines pretty much every single time.

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u/Educational_Cattle10 6 Nov 23 '22

Uhhh, the Supreme Court is the highest court…?

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u/ViperPM 9 Nov 23 '22

All politicians should be required to disclose their taxes. If you decide to run for public office, the sources of your income should be made public. I can’t get mad at someone that uses the tax codes legally to their advantage because we all do. That being said, I do have a problem with the tax laws.

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u/Mystshade 8 Nov 23 '22

What does someone's tax statements have to do with determining if they're fit to run?

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u/Mdxxx 5 Dec 02 '22

Nothing. Democrats are throwing a hissy fit because Trump has refused to do it himself.

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u/MrRobotos_weenis 6 Nov 23 '22

I love the downvotes for asking a question. Reddit truly is the platform for the “shut up and follow the herd” mentality

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u/Mystshade 8 Nov 23 '22

I mean, only one answer really clarified how tax statements might be useful, but it definitely comes off as though questions aren't welcome.

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u/mikelieman A Nov 23 '22

What does someone's tax statements have to do with determining if they're fit to run?

Someone owing Russian "bankers" 40 billion Rubles makes them a national security issue since the Russian "bankers" can influence them.

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u/Mystshade 8 Nov 23 '22

I don't think tax statements would tell if you had outstanding debt?

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u/mikelieman A Nov 23 '22

debt service interest payments are deductible.

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u/Mystshade 8 Nov 23 '22

TIL, thanks

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u/KeathKeatherton 8 Nov 23 '22

Transparency. That is required even in the private sector, I worked for a company that ran a credit check on all of the employees because we worked with physical checks.there is also the scrutinies of working in the public sector which go to the Nth degree of transparency.

Don’t be a public servant and think you won’t be seen completely by the public, taxes and all.

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u/Mystshade 8 Nov 23 '22

Thats fair.

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u/No_big_whoop B Nov 23 '22

Most entities won’t knowingly hire a chief executive who is shitty with money. If you can’t manage your personal finances you aren’t fit to serve.

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u/Mystshade 8 Nov 23 '22

Can tax returns tell if someone is bad with money?

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u/Strazdas1 9 Nov 23 '22

Where i live all candidates must declare their income. If i see candidates that declare they have not paid the apporpriate amount of taxes but used some loophole to evade it i will not vote for said candidate. I believe you should pay your fair share even if there is a legal way to avoid it, because it is your duty as a citizen to do right to your country. This goes triple to people who want to be elected.

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u/-Interested- 8 Nov 23 '22

Maybe, just maybe if you owe foreign nationals billions, you have a conflict of interest that should be made public.

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u/Mystshade 8 Nov 23 '22

Tax returns can tell you that?

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u/Hedgehogz_Mom 9 Nov 23 '22

Ding ding ding. Or, if your income doesn't support your lavish lifestyle and a case could be made for misappropriation of campaign funds, pay to play, or falsified funding from lenders aka the Chrisleys to use some grifters in the current news cycle

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u/BarryBwana 8 Nov 23 '22

Thats great. The GOP can then also use the same tools of accountability when they have control.

More accountability from those in office is good!

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u/RageQuitFTL 4 Nov 23 '22

Checks and balances and such. Agreed, you want to do public service then the public you serve should be able to know if you have conflicts of interest. Same shit as if you want a government clearance.

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u/few23 9 Nov 23 '22

Something something Congressional insider trading

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u/Hedgehogz_Mom 9 Nov 23 '22

Yeah that shit needs to end.

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u/PrintAllTheThingsUSA 0 Nov 23 '22

And they'll find nothing wrong and embarrass themselves even more, just like every other attempt that they've made.

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u/throwawaythrow0000 6 Nov 23 '22

We're talking about Trump's tax returns, not Trump's election fraud claims lol. Keep up.

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u/PrintAllTheThingsUSA 0 Nov 23 '22

So triggered... it's sad.

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u/Kr8n8s 8 Nov 23 '22

Wtf

I imagined for a second being this dense, and had some shivers

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u/RickVig 3 Nov 23 '22

Pelosi... the Pelosi-meister..., makin copies

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u/Bolt-From-Blue 7 Nov 23 '22

Can this be delayed long enough for the Republican Party to be in charge who would then potentially not give a F.

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u/badcoffee 4 Nov 25 '22

I don't see how, this was the last hurdle, just up to how fast Treasury responds now.

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u/CapN-Judaism 7 Nov 23 '22

Potentially

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u/ajaaaaaa 7 Nov 23 '22

Honestly why is this such a big deal. What will tax records do?

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u/sonofzeal 6 Nov 23 '22

It's traditional for incoming POTUSes to turn it over, at least in part to guard against conflict of interests and unlawful foreign influence that might pose a danger to our democracy. Every POTUS in the last 40+ years disclosed theirs, both Democrats and Republicans. Trump promised to do the same during his campaign, saying he had nothing to hide... and then spent the next six years fighting it at every turn. If that doesn't raise some eyebrows, I don't know what to tell you.

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u/ajaaaaaa 7 Nov 23 '22

Oh that makes sense, didn’t know that. My question wasn’t in defense of trump specifically, just didn’t know why it was something that was such a big deal.

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u/sonofzeal 6 Nov 23 '22

No worries! There's a lot of bad faith arguments and willful ignorance on the internet, but yeah your question seemed genuine to me and it's a completely reasonable thing to wonder about.

At the end of the day it may not provide more than a bit of theatre. Maybe it reveals something damning, maybe it's just embarrassing, but we won't know until we see it. And I for one think it's good for our leaders to be subject to a higher standard of integrity and transparency than average citizens.

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u/JEveryman 9 Nov 23 '22

Also it sounds like the trump org had some "tax peculiarities" based on Allen Weisselberg's testimony.

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u/gibbypoo 8 Nov 23 '22

It's entertainment, nothing more and nothing less

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u/ajaaaaaa 7 Nov 23 '22

Ah okay. I wasn’t sure if there was an actual reason pertaining to a case or something going on

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u/throwawaythrow0000 6 Nov 23 '22

To answer your question, if they do find any damaging information they can pass that along to a third party if it is relevant to their investigations.

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u/serial_cringer 4 Nov 23 '22

Been reading this for years, there's always something that blocks it. They will never be released

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u/yassenof 7 Nov 23 '22

There are no appeals above the supreme Court

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u/8549176320 9 Nov 23 '22

"OK, boys! It's down to the buzzer! Just pass the ball around till the clock runs out!"

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u/Different_Sense_5892 3 Nov 23 '22

Who cars

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u/Molire 9 Nov 23 '22

who nose

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u/kittyliklik 6 Nov 23 '22

My car cars

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u/Admiral-snackbaa 7 Nov 23 '22

I car, I’m sat in mine at the moment eating lunch

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u/SuperTulle 9 Nov 23 '22

Hello car im dad

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u/Mr_Funbags 7 Nov 23 '22

A lot of people, it seems. More-or-less every politician on the hill is interested, whether they're happy about it or unhappy.

And then there's a bunch of US citizens who aren't politicians who want to know. And then there are people who aren't from the US who also want to know.

Question is: why did you spend your time to ask that question and misspell half of it?

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u/flatulent_tarantula 6 Nov 23 '22

Easily explained as they weren’t asking a question. It was an open statement about cars owned by an inter-dimensional doctor /s

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u/Mr_Funbags 7 Nov 23 '22

Ooooooo-weeeeee-oooooooo..... Oooooooo; oooooooo. (That's how I see the opening music)

Love that show.

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u/Cautious_Option9544 7 Nov 23 '22

Sorry if this is me being stupidly positive, but I think even if it took place after the Rep's took power it'd still go through. Donny Boy has thrown enough people under the bus at this point that I'd be surprised if he has any friends in high places left.

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u/GoBlue81 7 Nov 23 '22

My guess is that this is the reason that SCOTUS declined to block. They saw the "Red Wave" completely collapse with many Trump-backed candidates lose races they were supposed to win. Now that Trump is seen as a liability, they're more willing to let him take this hit.

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u/CapN-Judaism 7 Nov 23 '22

I want to believe you, but Trump is so tied to the GOP’s image right now that I doubt they’d make a big deal out of his tax returns because it would make them look bad to Trumps fan base and Democratic leaning voters. This is especially true considering they did so poorly in the midterms.

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u/jb007gd 5 Nov 23 '22

I appreciate your cautious optimism. I'm usually cautiously optimistic but in this case I'm not sure anymore. That god damned son of a bitch has skated past so many threats I'm becoming jaded.

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u/exgiexpcv A Nov 23 '22

So what is this, SCOTUS making a token effort to appear legitimate?

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u/SinfullySinless C Nov 23 '22

Trump v DeSantis could destroy the Republican Party. I think the latest polls showed 30% of the Republican Party still back Trump. That’s not an insignificant number; especially since Trump motivates more Republicans to vote rather than to be apolitical.

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u/Pirwzy 7 Nov 23 '22

Trump v DeSantis could destroy the Republican Party.

Oh yeah. Say it again, softer.

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u/whathappendedhere 6 Nov 23 '22

Almost like they were the whole time or something.

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u/lionseatcake A Nov 23 '22

Okay, grandpa, whatever you say, it's time for your medicine.

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u/SchmearDaBagel 7 Nov 23 '22

Nah, that would have involved releasing these records years ago. Not RIGHT after the midterms lol

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u/takingorders 5 Nov 23 '22

And right after Trump becomes a problem for the GOP. Clear the way for Desantis and give them enough ammo to ignore the illegitimate Court.

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u/8ledmans 7 Nov 23 '22

Republicans are just finished with trump

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u/Living_Pause 0 Nov 23 '22

... and as well as we should be!

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u/Logrologist 7 Nov 23 '22

Right. Read this now for a few days. So….

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u/pakeco 6 Nov 23 '22

It happens very often in other countries too.

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u/DoktorAusgezeichnet 7 Nov 23 '22

In other countries, tax records are public, and available to everyone.

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u/heinzbumbeans 9 Nov 23 '22

in some other countries.

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u/DoktorAusgezeichnet 7 Nov 23 '22

In every other country that I'm familiar with. Which, admittedly, is only one. So, to be fair, I may be extrapolating from incomplete data.

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u/svmayor 1 Nov 23 '22

Wow. Seems like everyone on this thread is just incredibly naive. It's like you're trying to figure out who your favorite Menedez brother is.

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u/MACCRACKIN 5 Nov 23 '22

Perfect Timing for third Impeachment @! Well,, kiss another year and Billion's$ good bye. Milk will surly be $9 a gallon. Butter is already $7.50. Pot - is now cheaper & safer than processed pack of Old Gold.
All the good cookies are gone again. And a Charlie Daniels version of whining why.
Cheers

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u/the-artistocrat 9 Nov 23 '22

Mass hysteria!

“WE HAVE NO SOLUTIONS ONLY FEAR MONGERING” - GQP

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u/TheDankSkittles 5 Nov 23 '22

NOT THE COOKIES

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u/gibswim75 7 Nov 23 '22

It definitely has nothing to do w the prior administration raising the national debt higher than any other one in history ha? Or Trump dishing out billions to Americans like myself who never missed a day of work during the pandemic ha?

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u/crgresham 8 Nov 23 '22

Don't worry, I'm sure the Republicans investigating HB's laptop is gonna help. /s