r/JusticeServed Nov 17 '22

New Mexico County Commissioner removed from office for his actions on January 6 loses appeal and now banned from holding office for life Mods Reserve 1964

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u/Acceptable-Food-1448 0 Nov 19 '22

Serves that traitor right!

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u/Strazdas1 9 Nov 18 '22

banned from holding office for life

A high official here in europe was found guilty by court for selling government secrets to Russia around 10 years ago. Part of his punishment was also to be banned from holding office for life. EU Supreme court has overturned that was a human right violation and he is now sitting in EU Parliament.

How is the legal system in US? Is it capable of preventing such ruling being overturned over "human rights"?

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u/scuevasr 6 Nov 18 '22

maybe the only way to wiggle out of this is by somehow getting a presidential pardon. but unless trump wins, i don’t see that happening.

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u/dwilliams20001 5 Nov 18 '22

Human rights? In the US? Hilarious!

I'd be worried if this particular politician was wealthy. But he's not, so I imagine he's done.

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u/toddsputnik 4 Nov 18 '22 edited Nov 18 '22

There are no human rights in the U.S. There are Constitutional rights both Federal and State. There are no Constitutional rights to hold office. It is a privilege. There are Constitutional rights for notice and an opportunity to be heard and argue against having this privilege taken away. This is through the trial court and appellate process. Since he had an opportunity to be heard and lost, it is over unless the U.S. Supreme Court decides to hear the matter on a writ.

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u/Righteousrob1 9 Nov 18 '22

We throw away the key on people who sell small amounts of weed. Human rights. Lol.

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u/Strazdas1 9 Nov 22 '22

Its bad that we do that, these people should just be fined and let go.

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u/DutDiggaDut 9 Nov 18 '22

Lol you can do anything in the US with enough money

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u/thaneofpain 8 Nov 18 '22

Hopefully this precedent gets applied to all of them

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u/Sablesgirl 5 Nov 18 '22

Huzzah!

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u/Goodly88 7 Nov 18 '22

Now can we get everyone else that held an office while participating on Jan 6 be banned for life too?

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u/Veggieleezy 9 Nov 18 '22

Now if only we could do this sort of thing a few hundred more times, that'd be great, thanks.

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u/gouellette 9 Nov 18 '22

r/Albuquerque how feelin’?

Cuz that’s some good news

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u/Hyper98 7 Nov 25 '22

Le funni meth city

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u/elsonwarcraft 8 Nov 18 '22

Breaking bad city

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u/ieatassbutono 6 Nov 18 '22

He held office in Alamogordo New Mexico not Albuquerque

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u/gouellette 9 Nov 18 '22

I know But Albuquerque is a big subreddit, I’m not sure if r/Alamogordo is as prominent

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u/MrCoolHandLukie 1 Nov 18 '22

Really happy!

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u/mcpat21 A Nov 18 '22

Now do it to trump.

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u/manhatim 9 Nov 18 '22

Do tRump next!

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u/rikwebster 7 Nov 18 '22

Ha! Get fucked!

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u/sophietehbeanz 7 Nov 18 '22

Okay so why aren’t others being punished with the same fervor as this guy?! Ugh.

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u/FARTBOSS420 8 Nov 18 '22

It's horseshit

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u/hedgerow_hank 7 Nov 18 '22

Now do some U.S. congressmen.

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u/Ninja_attack A Nov 18 '22

In a just world, all politicians that have endorsed Trump along with his insurrection attempt and election lies would be barred from holding office ever again.

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u/Strazdas1 9 Nov 18 '22

I disagree. I dont think merely endorcing Trump should ban you from holding office. I agree for such punishment for supporting Jan 6 events, but anyon who thought the incompetent bufoon was better than competent evil shouldnt automatically punished for that.

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u/Alex_2259 B Nov 18 '22

Security experts determined the data ownership is inconclusive. I believe them over inbred preacher Tucker Carlson

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '22

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u/Nibbcnoble 7 Nov 18 '22

ya'll shamed the silly kid to remove his post. i enjoy that

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u/habb A Nov 18 '22

and how is donald trump still able to hold office?

just another to add to the pile of hypocrisy

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u/Strazdas1 9 Nov 18 '22

Hes not holding office, though?

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u/habb A Nov 18 '22

he's running for office he shouldn't be.

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u/Strazdas1 9 Nov 18 '22

Thats not the same as holding office though.

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u/NRMusicProject B Nov 18 '22

"But he didn't do anything! He just said 'we're going for a walk to Capitol Hill!' He didn't know that they were going to try to kill Mike Pence for not backing him up!"

I just can't believe how horribly stupid these people are. Then again, the grifting has worked so far.

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u/OFFascist 7 Nov 18 '22

This is not justice, he lost his right to run for office because of trespassing. He was was not convicted of insurrection.

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u/westwardhose 8 Nov 18 '22

"...shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

I tried and failed to find the part of the 14th Amendment that specifies which crimes he had to be convicted of in order to be barred from office.

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u/ayers231 A Nov 17 '22

Everyone says "do Trump next!". Better to do MTG, Boebert, et al next. Gut the support group. Trump will fail on his own. He'll either be taken down by the Republican propaganda machine, or they let everything be approved by SCOTUS for the charges Trump faces everywhere. Republicans won't let Trump fuck them over.

Better to go after the rest and let them take their own trash out...

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u/IgnoranceIsAVirus 8 Nov 17 '22

Cool now do trump

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u/ProfessionSilver2391 7 Nov 17 '22

So now let's finally take care of the king of the coup.

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u/Creekblood 6 Nov 17 '22

Came here to say the same thing. Fuck trump and his followers

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u/ProfessionSilver2391 7 Nov 17 '22

Right? Why is that dick dragging around a body allowed to seek office again?

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u/westwardhose 8 Nov 18 '22

You give his mushroom penis too much credit.

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u/AndyMike9 7 Nov 17 '22

Now do it to trump

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u/AMinorDistraction 4 Nov 17 '22

What did he do?

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u/elegantjihad 9 Nov 17 '22

I’ve heard of not reading the article, but not reading the headline? That’s a new low.

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u/Strazdas1 9 Nov 18 '22

The headline does not mention what hes done. it says he took actions during the jan 6th events. What actions were though was the question.

As an european, "new mexico county comissioner" says absolutely nothing to me as to who the guys is.

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u/AMinorDistraction 4 Nov 18 '22

The question was what were the actions specifically

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u/BedDefiant4950 8 Nov 17 '22

tried to overthrow the US congress to impose a dictator

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u/BedDefiant4950 8 Nov 18 '22

boooo get better material

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u/AMinorDistraction 4 Nov 17 '22

I mean, specifically what actions did he do?

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u/juansolothecop 4 Nov 17 '22

Was on the grounds at the riot, was imaged trying to scale the wall. And allegedly brought firearms. And also, there is an article you can read if you really want the deets.

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u/Strazdas1 9 Nov 18 '22

Now if only people would respond with this coincide answer like yours instead of just downvoting a guy for asking for clarification....

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u/AMinorDistraction 4 Nov 17 '22

Sure, I'd like to read more about this, interesting stuff

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u/SambaLando 9 Nov 17 '22

Watch Donald pardon them all if he wins.

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u/IgnoranceIsAVirus 8 Nov 17 '22

Not unless they're super rich.

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u/Kvenner001 8 Nov 17 '22

Unless they are important fat chance.

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u/pigs1n5p4c3 4 Nov 17 '22

Good. Now do the rest of these losers.

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u/cristorocker 7 Nov 17 '22

Now on to treasonous ex-Presidents and Congresspeople.

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u/kryppla B Nov 17 '22

Cool let’s do more of this I know some senators and a former president

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u/Throwawaymytrash77 8 Nov 17 '22

That's what you get for being a fucking traitor 🤷‍♂️ You reap what you sow

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u/Throwawaymytrash77 8 Nov 17 '22

Didn't realize attacking the capitol to overthrow the election was even remotely democratic, wow, great observation, thank you for your input /s

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u/Mr_TedBundy 7 Nov 18 '22

How exactly would they "overthrow" a national election by entering a building, to take selfies, and then leaving?

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u/Throwawaymytrash77 8 Nov 18 '22

You can't be serious

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u/Mr_TedBundy 7 Nov 18 '22

Can you imagine how fragile our democracy would have to be for a group of demonstrators to be able to overturn an election simply by trespassing. That is some crazy conspiracy theory type stuff. It reminds me of the episode of IT Crowd when Roy and Moss give Jen a black box to take to a presentation where she informed the audience that the black box was "The Internet" and that if it was destroyed then the world would lose Internet and fall into chaos. Roy and Moss thought that nobody would be stupid enough to believe that the Internet was the size of a shoe box, but I guess art imitates life or in this instance it predicted just how much people are willing to believe even the dumbest ideas.

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u/Throwawaymytrash77 8 Nov 18 '22

group of demonstrators

Did you miss the part where people died? Did you entirely overlook the violence that occurred? The hundreds injured? The officers that killed themselves afterwards?

simply by trespassing

Attack. It was an attack on the capitol of the world's greatest superpower. Did you see the gallows that were built? This was a direct response to the electoral votes being counted and validated, which Trump did not want. Because he's a traitor to democracy.

Would it have ever succeeded? No. But that isn't the problem. The problem is the ramifications of that day.

If you attack the capital of a country that you are a citizen of, that makes you a traitor. It's that simple. They are being tried and convicted as such.

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u/Successful-Damage499 0 Nov 17 '22

He's gonna get a pardon tho, right cuz if not looks like he's completely fucked. Trumps ability to sell snake oil is incredible, I gotta give credit where it's due.

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u/Kroxursox 7 Nov 17 '22

I dont think a pardon will matter, as taking a pardon requires admittance of guilt. Which is what's disqualifying.

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u/Derfargin 8 Nov 17 '22

Who’s going to pardon him ?

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u/Successful-Damage499 0 Nov 17 '22

Cheeto Caligula

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u/Derfargin 8 Nov 17 '22

Only sitting presidents have the ability to pardon.

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u/TheNothingAtoll 8 Nov 17 '22

Now do Trump

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u/1337GameDev 9 Nov 17 '22

So if this is the case, can't we do the same for the individual they INSTIGATED it?

How has trump not been penalized...

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u/gonzoforpresident 9 Nov 17 '22

Not really, for several reasons.

Most importantly, Griffin has a conviction related to Jan 6. He's the only politician who has that, as far as I'm aware.

He was convicted of trespassing by a state level District court (which isn't binding in any court). He was never charged with anything worse than that, which is why his defense was stupid.

His defense relied entirely on 1st Amendment grounds. He should have fought it on the fact that some people were charged with seditious conspiracy and he wasn't even charged, much less convicted.

After all that, his appeal wasn't denied on merit. It was denied on procedural grounds because his defense was completely inept.

Basically, to get any other politician barred from office, you'd have to get a conviction for something and convince the higher courts that it was big enough that the 14th Amendment applied. That would be far harder than overcoming Griffins inept defense. And calling his defense inept is an understatement. It was guaranteed to lose from the get go.

Trump is terrible, but his lawyers would never present such a poor defense. Even Giuliani would do better.

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u/Current_Operation_93 2 Nov 17 '22

How about the Democrats that encouraged the riots during the summer of 2020 that caused billions if dollars of damage and injuries and several deaths of innocent people. You are hypocritically blind and intellectual liars.

Oh, by the way, I loathe Trump and never voted for the self serving prick.

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u/stunninglingus 6 Nov 17 '22

Vague generalities tied to questionable events about people exercising their right to assemble and calling for accountability of the police nationwide.

Did a politician tell a mob of people to burn the police precinct in Seattle, or was it just a mob? There is at least one example of a cop in disguise bricking windows to incite the mob, maybe more. If you have direct lines from politicians to the mob, lets see em. And I am not talking about Tucker Carlson connections-direct words to action only please.

Because on Jan 6, you can draw a directly line from Trump to the insurrectionists. Also, overturning a national election by force to install a dictator is not the same as demanding justice and accounability by force (even though the protests were largely peacful, and it was police inciting violence in many cases). A broken window is not the same as a gallows.

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u/eravyn 9 Nov 17 '22

Most of the damage done was started by groups trying to make the protestors look bad.

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u/Mr_TedBundy 7 Nov 17 '22

Please post your source for this claim

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u/eravyn 9 Nov 17 '22

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u/Mr_TedBundy 7 Nov 18 '22

I pulled up the first source and apparently you haven't been keeping up with news over the past couple of years. That "source" that you claim supports your theory that "most of the damage was started" by non Leftists is misinformation. How can they know the age of "Umbrella Man" and the group he is affiliated with if they still don't even know who the hell he is more than 2 years later? : https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/fbi-seeking-publics-help-iding-umbrella-man-who-smashed-windows-during-2020-unrest/

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u/ChequeBook A Nov 17 '22

What are you talking about?

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u/Das-Noob 9 Nov 17 '22

Source: trust me bro.

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u/gonzoforpresident 9 Nov 17 '22

FWIW, he's using real numbers.

Axios reported that the estimates were $1 billion on the low end, up to $2+ billion.

The protests that took place in 140 U.S. cities this spring were mostly peaceful, but the arson, vandalism and looting that did occur will result in at least $1 billion to $2 billion of paid insurance claims — eclipsing the record set in Los Angeles in 1992 after the acquittal of the police officers who brutalized Rodney King.

That number could be as much as $2 billion and possibly more, according to the Insurance Information Institute (or Triple-I), which compiles information from PCS as well as other firms that report such statistics.

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u/westwardhose 8 Nov 17 '22

Recently arrived Otero County resident here. This little boy is an embarrassing toddler throwing a temper tantrum. He is intent on perfecting his failure. The only option he's left himself is to lean into the lies. He has nothing else to lose. The moment he lets up, he'll have to face the complete disgrace he's made of himself. That's hard for anyone to do, but it's especially hard for someone who has never had to grow up.

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u/keg98 6 Nov 18 '22

Fellow New Mexican here, but I live in the north part of the state. We generally consider Griffin a pendejo.

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u/Molire 9 Nov 17 '22 edited Nov 17 '22

You and other people in Otero County might be interested in the U.S. governments's official details about his case and his conviction.

Case Documents > Griffin - Affidavit, includes evidence/screenshots of him at the Capitol on Jan. 6 (pdf p. 4 to p. 7).

He pleaded not guilty to the charges against him. Before his trial date, he was held in jail for 20 days. On 6/17/22, he had a trial in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia. He was found guilty on a misdemeanor charge and was sentenced to 14 days in jail and other penalties. He received credit for jail time already served.

His sentence also includes one year of supervised release. He has to stay in touch with the federal probation officer who is supervising and keeping an eye on him during his term of supervised release. During his term of supervised release, if he violates any of the strict conditions of supervised release, or if his conduct violates any local, state, or federal laws, he can be sent back to jail or to prison.

He was sentenced to 60 hours of community service.

U.S. District Judge Trevor N. McFadden ordered him to pay a $3,000 fine and $500 in restitution.

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u/OFFascist 7 Nov 18 '22

So he lost some of his rights because of a misdemeanor. Just is when the punishment fits the crime and this is not justice.

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u/no-mad B Nov 17 '22

hopefully, he will violate his parole and we wont have to hear about him again.

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u/fatjeff1980 7 Nov 17 '22

Now do the same to every member of the Trump family.

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u/Mr_Stiel 7 Nov 17 '22

DOJ coming for the rest of these treasonous right wingers.

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u/jwrig 8 Nov 17 '22

Too bad this doesn't apply to the federal office.

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u/TheDarkKnobRises 8 Nov 17 '22

If we only had the same rules for national elections.......

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u/allgreen2me 8 Nov 18 '22

Like the same Section 3 of the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution or something.

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u/Hs39163 8 Nov 17 '22

Shoot, we almost had one of these chucklefucks as Secretary in State here in AZ (y’know - the office in charge of elections and election integrity for the whole state).

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u/uniqueusername311 0 Nov 17 '22

Now do Trump

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u/morbob 8 Nov 17 '22

Trump is next in line for exile.

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u/Elrigoo A Nov 17 '22

Now do trump

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u/Charges-Pending A Nov 17 '22

Cool. Now do Trump.

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u/AspectOvGlass 9 Nov 17 '22

Ok but the guy who instigated the coup can still run for president?

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u/FlyingRhenquest 8 Nov 17 '22

Yeah, but he's rich. Laws don't apply to the rich. He told us that. It's the only honest thing ever to come out of his mouth.

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u/OLPopsAdelphia 7 Nov 17 '22

Ok, now do Donald.

If it’s this easy, do Donald.

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u/hawksdiesel 8 Nov 17 '22

Participating in Jan 6th should get you a life time ban from being able to hold any public facing job period.

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u/Phantomzero17 8 Nov 17 '22

IMHO it should have you up against a wall.

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u/_Internet_Hugs_ A Nov 17 '22

It's nothing short of treason. I'm with you.

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u/microscopig 1 Nov 17 '22

But Trump is not????

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u/Tomburgerstand 9 Nov 17 '22

Wouldn't it be amazing if being banned from holding office for life was the standard punishment for perpetrators of the insurrection?

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u/Strazdas1 9 Nov 18 '22

I suppose the founding fathers would have looked a lot different then.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '22

idk man, i think ur asking a lot (joke)

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u/Tomburgerstand 9 Nov 17 '22

Right? Accountability and consequences for actions is a huge ask haha