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u/tentativealien 7d ago
I know no one really cares, but this is because the Atlantic is the youngest ocean! So the crust formed is the newest and therefore shallower!
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u/riccum 7d ago
But it’s sexier(hotter)!
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u/HODLOnForOneMoreDay 7d ago
Many people would find it creepy if the Pacific hit on the Atlantic with the age difference between them.
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u/Successful_Peanut812 7d ago
No idea if the numbers are right but this page says they're 30 million years apart.
Pacific Ocean: 180 million years
Atlantic Ocean: 150 million years
Does the '1/2 your age + 7' rule apply to oceans?
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u/avwitcher 7d ago
I'd say yes, I don't think the maturity difference between a 180 million year old ocean and a 150 million year old ocean is that big. They've both been pissed in by dinosaurs at the end of the day
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u/d3northway 7d ago
as have we all, on this blessed day
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u/Frosty_McRib 7d ago
Pacific Ocean got that Olsen twins-style countdown clock set for 30 million years from now.
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u/Bompedomp 7d ago
32, 16, 23... man does that rule allow rounding, I tend to operate under the "At a bar? We're cool" assumption and now y'got me worried...
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u/Successful_Peanut812 7d ago
You're far too young to be hitting on either ocean.
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u/Bompedomp 7d ago
Woah woah woah woah woah. Don't you go stepping on my relationship with the pacific. We've shared enough golden showers that there's no going back now.
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u/ShesAMurderer 7d ago
It’s not a hard and fast rule at all, more of a target figure. And the context matters a lot too, bar hookups would be a lot less weird than a 32 year old salesman dating an 18 year old intern or something
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u/JoetheBlue217 7d ago
Really though the Pacific Ocean is abt 750 MYA, but they didn’t call it the pacific until after the breakup of Pangea because it was the only ocean, Panthalassa
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u/AshyBoneVR4 6d ago
..... half your age.... + 7???? This is a thing?
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u/Successful_Peanut812 6d ago
Its a joke I've seen on sitcoms but I don't follow it myself.
It has a Wikipedia page and there's more history to it than I thought.
Frederick Locker-Lampson's Patchwork from 1879 states the opinion "A wife should be half the age of her husband with seven years added."[84]
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u/pebrudite 7d ago
The Appalachian mountains were formed…by Africa smashing into the US East Coast
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u/ywBBxNqW 7d ago
Here is a great series of images that follow the formation of the landmasses over the history of the planet. It's really neat to consider all the geography that actually used to be connected (and it makes sense considering the geologic traits of some areas are so similar to others).
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u/Savage9645 7d ago
Yup, it's estimated that the tallest mountain in the Earth's history is somewhere in NC I think. Appalachian mountains are old as hell which is why they are so rocky and relatively small.
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u/Themagnetanswer 7d ago
Here to share my recollection: it was an entirely different mountain chain that had the mountains comparable to that of Everest (this seems to be the limit before erosion outweighs uplift), in what is now the Appalachias. Meaning these previous mountains were built to be the size of Everest, completely eroded and then the orogeny responsible for the Appalachias happen, and then are now since greatest eroded.
Another fun fact, again if I’m remembering correctly, for the most part the features of the white mountains that seem like uplifted mountain peaks, are actually just erosion faces stripped from a high altitude rock plateau; more akin to the Grand Canyon as opposed to mountains like the Rockies. There are some volcanic features too.
Lastly, New York State is basically the epicenter for the entire North American continent and s called a Craton. Geologists still don’t understand why continents form at all as opposed being covered completely by ocean, but they know cratons are involved. I’ve had the pleasure of seeing 450 million year old fossils out there (:
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u/theLuminescentlion 7d ago
That same mountain range is now mountains in Northeast Africa, Scotland, Norway, and North East South America in addition to the Appalachians
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u/Idea-Warm 7d ago
I figured it's because the west coast of the Americas is very tall, which on a dry planet shown from this angle gives the illusion that the Pacific Ocean to the west is deeper than the Atlantic Ocean to the east.
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u/MoreNormalThanNormal 7d ago
Yes. I have looked at the original much closer and California's Central Valley is masquerading as the ocean with the Sierra Nevada mountains as the coast. They have many 12,000 foot peaks for reference. (3,660 meters)
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u/ThorLives 7d ago
The Pacific and Atlantic ocean are almost the same depth. I'm tired of all this anti-Atlantic propaganda.
The Pacific is also our planet's deepest water body, with an average depth of approximately 4,000 meters (13,000 feet).
If dependent seas are taken into account, the average depth of the Atlantic is 3,338 metres (10,932 feet); without them, it is slightly deeper at 3,926 metres (12,881 ft).
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u/Plastic_Pinocchio 6d ago
Also, the difference is not even that large. An average of 3300 m VS 4000 m. This image is very deceiving because the elevation is exaggerated and the western Americas have high mountain ranges whereas the east is more flat.
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u/Hoser117 7d ago
From what I can read online this is wrong. Supposedly this is the most accurate image https://cdn.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/earth-no-water.jpg
It comes from the United States Geological Survey and the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution.
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u/MickRaider 7d ago
Yeah this looks way exaggerated. That said a 3D printed version with a 5:1 or 10:1 exaggerated topology would be a sweet desk toy. Otherwise I don't think it would have the wow factor
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u/cowboyfromhell324 7d ago
A marble would have more ridges than an actual scale version.
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u/NicolasCageLovesMe 7d ago
If a marble was as big as Earth, what would the surface look like to me?
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u/ThrockedMorton 7d ago
What are the two smaller balls of water?
I’m guessing big ball = saltwater, medium ball = freshwater, little ball = river water?
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u/Hoser117 7d ago
I pulled the image from here - https://www.zmescience.com/science/earth-no-water-animation-913134/
It only mentions two balls of water:
The big blue drop is the size of the sphere you’d get if you extracted all the Earth’s ocean water, while the smaller drop corresponds to the volume of water contained in all the world’s lakes, swamps, aquifers, and rivers.
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u/Victernus 7d ago
The third one is the tears of the people after someone stole the oceans.
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u/kvothe5688 7d ago
i always embark on light equifers to make natural waterfall. make my dorfs happy
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u/BenBit13 7d ago
Biggest one is all water on earth, medium all liquid fresh water and smallest one fresh water lakes and rivers.
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u/Metal__goat 7d ago
I will totally back up the image you linked here! I work in underwater robotics and have worked on jobs that surveyed the data to help generate this image!
The one in the post is very exaggerated.
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u/colbyjackrat222 7d ago
That tiny 3rd sphere represents all of the accessible fresh water on the entire planet.
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u/jksoup 7d ago
What’d the Atlantic Ocean do to them
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u/JesusOnline_89 7d ago
Must have had family members on the Titanic.
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u/HODLOnForOneMoreDay 7d ago
Maybe the passengers should have learned how to swim in puddles smh my head.
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u/MATHIL_IS_MY_DADDY 7d ago
yo HODLOnForOneMoreDay, did you know that your post contains all the letters for the sentence "I love gummy bears"?
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u/engr77 7d ago edited 7d ago
Speaking of the Titanic, I once did this little thought experiment on the depth of the wreck which is actually totally relevant to this post:
Using the Google Maps measure tool, there is an approximate 3500 mile straight-line distance between New York City and London. There are 3600 inches in the length of a football field (not counting endzones). So you can basically say that there are the same number of inches in the field length as there are miles between the two cities.
Keeping that scale, if you imagine a field-sized pool as the ocean between the continents, the Titanic wreck is under about 2.5" of water.
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u/Meaning-Exotic 7d ago
Finally, someone eloquently describes my feelings about the Atlantic Ocean.
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u/Earl_your_friend 7d ago
I have to admit I've always thought of the Atlantic Ocean as an emergency backup Ocean.
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u/Tommy_C 7d ago
Shallow and pedantic
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u/StaniaViceChancellor 7d ago
Pacific gang is where it's at fr fr
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u/addyislife 7d ago
Y'all can keep your cold ass water
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u/danteelite 7d ago
I don’t think this is even remotely accurate…
Vsauce did a video where they explained that if earth was the size of a pool ball, it would be smoother than a pool ball. It would basically feel slightly damp in a few spots and that’s it… lol
That’s insane to think about how big our world is, how vast the mountains and oceans seem to us but they’re miles away from being as bumpy as sandpaper at a cosmic scale!
We literally are just germs on a damp dirty ball floating in nothing. A speck of dust in the cosmos.
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u/DameRuby 7d ago
IIRC the deepest portions of the trenches are six miles deep? So yeah, to your point, I think this model exaggerates scale of depth.
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u/danteelite 7d ago
Yeah, it looks pretty cool though.
I found it interesting that FL is actually the flattest state and much “flatter” than a pancake at scale… lol
It’s always crazy to me how much the scale of things actually changes as you go bigger or smaller. Like seeing a storm in the distance that seems like a tiny cartoon rain cloud but it actually covers an entire city. You see massive mountains and trenches and when you zoom out they’re barely even noticeable just from orbit…
Earth feels so massive and yet so small at the same time. It feels incalculably huge, so big our minds can barely process it, but we’re also so tiny in the cosmos… a spec so insignificant we can’t even comprehend the scale of the universe. It’s an odd paradox of thought.
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u/waitforit666 7d ago
this isnt even remotely close, the deepest part of the ocean is the challenger deep in the mariana trench, which is 36,161 feet deep, which isnt even 7 miles, 7 miles on this map of the globe is at less than 2 pixels...according to this abomination on screen, the deepest parts of the ocean are like 200 miles or something, which is well into the mantle of the earth at that point...this is just some weird 3d model of the earth with all landmasses sticking out for emphasis
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u/LaFleurSauvageGaming 7d ago
The continents would not be that distinct. It is the weight of the seawater that compresses them down, and in turn displaces the less-densely composed continental plates upwards. Without the water, things would be a lot more leveled. I am also curious if subduction would continue without the weight of the oceans, or would all the plates become transform faults, and eventually "seal" the planet, leading to mega volcanos forming as pressure releases instead of the giant midocean rifts...
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u/chewychaca 7d ago
Pacific Ocean means 'peaceful' ocean, notice the same root as pacifist. I guess it's true that still waters run deep.
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u/blankDH 7d ago
I though the earth was suppose to be smoother than a bowling ball at that scale
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u/Icanscrewmyhaton 7d ago
Speaking of continental drift, wouldn't it be great if Africa rammed into the gap between the Americas again? Fill in our Gaia, leave one true ocean for our blue planet. Take a train from San Francisco to Beijing or sail forever the Pacific. I miss the old days.
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u/NikoKida 7d ago
HEAVILY exaggerated. Relative to the earth’s diameter, the difference between the bottom of Challenger Deep and the top of Mount Everest is really small. I’ve heard the whole surface of the earth is smoother than a rubber ball would be scaled up.
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u/Ricothebuttonpusher 7d ago
Not accurate.
Even with no water, Earth would be smoother than a cue ball. Earth is almost 8,000 miles in diameter and the distance from Mount Everest to the Mariana Trench is 12 miles.
12/8000 = 0.0015
Average cue ball is 2.25 inches
2.25 x .0015 = 0.003 inches
In conclusion, you wouldn’t feel grain of a bump even from Mount Everest. Ok I’m gonna take a nap now
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u/fuzzy9691 7d ago
Shadows and lighting; what do they do?!
Mysteries of the universe this dumbass will never understand.
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u/Isthisworking2000 7d ago
That’s because the Atlantic was formed by the gap created when Pangea split up
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u/isaac9092 7d ago
Now I see why my chemistry teacher said even if the earth was the size of tiny marble you’d be able to easily feel it’s topography.
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u/CletusVanDamnit 7d ago
New sentence? Is there even anyone on the planet that actually refers to it as the Atlantic and not the Shallow Bitch Puddle?
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u/SexwithMurata69 6d ago
The way I see it, Kyogre is surrounded. What's underneath the ocean? That's right, more earth.
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u/TFFPrisoner 6d ago
Atlantic ass ocean ass shallow ass bitch ass puddle ass ocean ass.
Just say ass between every ass word.
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u/DungeonCrawlingFool 7d ago
Very heavily exaggerated bumpiness though